From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp0 ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms11 with LMTPS id r8QNNyirmV/HMwAA0tVLHw (envelope-from ) for ; Wed, 28 Oct 2020 17:32:24 +0000 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp0 with LMTPS id EAJmMiirmV9uZwAA1q6Kng (envelope-from ) for ; Wed, 28 Oct 2020 17:32:24 +0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 691209403A0 for ; Wed, 28 Oct 2020 17:32:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([::1]:53202 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kXpJ7-0002Nr-3i for larch@yhetil.org; Wed, 28 Oct 2020 13:32:21 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:52170) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kXpIs-0002N5-Cy for bug-guix@gnu.org; Wed, 28 Oct 2020 13:32:06 -0400 Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:38963) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kXpIp-0008UG-3f for bug-guix@gnu.org; Wed, 28 Oct 2020 13:32:05 -0400 Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kXpIp-0007vp-0e for bug-guix@gnu.org; Wed, 28 Oct 2020 13:32:03 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#44257: guix boot stop Resent-From: Tobias Geerinckx-Rice Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-guix@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2020 17:32:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 44257 X-GNU-PR-Package: guix X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Leo Famulari Cc: 44257@debbugs.gnu.org, drkrider@gmail.com X-Debbugs-Original-Cc: "44257@debbugs.gnu.org" <44257@debbugs.gnu.org>, bug-guix@gnu.org, Douglas Linford Received: via spool by 44257-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B44257.160390629829245 (code B ref 44257); Wed, 28 Oct 2020 17:32:02 +0000 Received: (at 44257) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 Oct 2020 17:31:38 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50500 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kXpIQ-0007bQ-F2 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 28 Oct 2020 13:31:38 -0400 Received: from tobias.gr ([80.241.217.52]:33180) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kXpIO-0007Xz-7O for 44257@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 28 Oct 2020 13:31:37 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=tobias.gr; s=2018; bh=odZtueTzi8+Dx3MXR41WKtky+t7J2N2BowScKBR+LBk=; h=date:in-reply-to: references:subject:cc:to:from; b=hA62+OwuDQF2rGUhkl0RUI1+qCBKjqBf8xEdm s+y4OOtkHL0FdddJr9qKogLxZH4f2jiqANr4oU5xjHFgV0xHLRXYj9giP+b06BhCG7h0bz /tggFle+bzdq+O2+jrvAg/zzWCOgbY/dOcbsIzuDRDmegyJ7Dh0bPmMV4Tgck4E7UGIaRj mvT7HuFaZ3vhisEdzWSV4uHM4LnlIiUGFUBzW26+W5Wc7GUjLgS/vfeYg1g9meca97QzCU Ph+xPPs/UTjtGJmsINFdxE0vbC0xUqCQABCWj3QSVSCIUmO+h5D0nKNR7FaKErQHRkquSa t1TCIUiSe/oICz6upT+UYak6A== Received: by submission.tobias.gr (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPSA id 39ccf831 (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-ECDSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256:NO); Wed, 28 Oct 2020 17:31:53 +0000 (UTC) BIMI-Selector: v=BIMI1; s=default; References: <87k0va2zyv.fsf@gnu.org> <1563A7D9-9391-4DB8-9059-C416F0C44DF4@getmailspring.com> <20201028162431.GB12095@jasmine.lan> In-reply-to: <20201028162431.GB12095@jasmine.lan> Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2020 18:31:42 +0100 Message-ID: <87zh46xnnl.fsf@nckx> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) X-BeenThere: bug-guix@gnu.org List-Id: Bug reports for GNU Guix List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-guix-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "bug-Guix" Reply-to: Tobias Geerinckx-Rice From: Tobias Geerinckx-Rice via Bug reports for GNU Guix X-Scanner: scn0 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail (rsa verify failed) header.d=tobias.gr header.s=2018 header.b=hA62+Owu; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gnu.org; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of bug-guix-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=bug-guix-bounces@gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -3.11 X-TUID: Kkb6SzyAHO44 --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Well, since this is the Internet... Leo Famulari =E5=86=99=E9=81=93=EF=BC=9A > The timestamps are reset to "zero" (the first date possible on=20 > Unix > systems) as part of Guix's efforts to build everything=20 > reproducibly. The manual does claim as much (in (guix)Binary Installation) but=20 it's never been true: $ stat -c %Y /gnu/store/arbitrary.file 1 0 is a valid value: $ touch -d @0 /tmp/foo $ stat -c %Y /tmp/foo 0 But (IIRC) it's a dangerous one to use in practice as too much=20 code assumes it never occurs in the wild, and use it to mean=20 something special for internal use. IIRRC GNU make was (once?)=20 one such culprit. I shall patch the manual and make this an actionable bug after=20 all. 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