* bug#21694: 'clone' syscall binding unreliable
@ 2015-10-16 20:39 Ludovic Courtès
2015-10-16 23:12 ` Thompson, David
2015-10-22 14:38 ` Mark H Weaver
0 siblings, 2 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Ludovic Courtès @ 2015-10-16 20:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: David Thompson; +Cc: 21694
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I’m reporting the problem and (hopefully) the solution, but I think we’d
better double-check this.
The problem: Running the test below in a loop sometimes gets a SIGSEGV
in the child process (on x86_64, libc 2.22.)
--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
(use-modules (guix build syscalls) (ice-9 match))
(match (clone (logior CLONE_NEWUSER
CLONE_CHILD_SETTID
CLONE_CHILD_CLEARTID
SIGCHLD))
(0
(throw 'x)) ;XXX: sometimes segfaults
(pid
(match (waitpid pid)
((_ . status)
(pk 'status status)
(exit (not (status:term-sig status)))))))
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
Looking at (guix build syscalls) though, I see an ABI mismatch between
our definition and the actual ‘syscall’ C function, and between our
‘clone’ definition and the actual C function.
This leads to the attached patch, which also fixes the above problem for me.
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diff --git a/guix/build/syscalls.scm b/guix/build/syscalls.scm
index 80b9d00..f931f8d 100644
--- a/guix/build/syscalls.scm
+++ b/guix/build/syscalls.scm
@@ -322,10 +322,16 @@ string TMPL and return its file name. TMPL must end with 'XXXXXX'."
(define CLONE_NEWNET #x40000000)
;; The libc interface to sys_clone is not useful for Scheme programs, so the
-;; low-level system call is wrapped instead.
+;; low-level system call is wrapped instead. The 'syscall' function is
+;; declared in <unistd.h> as a variadic function; in practice, it expects 6
+;; pointer-sized arguments, as shown in, e.g., x86_64/syscall.S.
(define clone
(let* ((ptr (dynamic-func "syscall" (dynamic-link)))
- (proc (pointer->procedure int ptr (list int int '*)))
+ (proc (pointer->procedure long ptr
+ (list long ;sysno
+ unsigned-long ;flags
+ '* '* '*
+ '*)))
;; TODO: Don't do this.
(syscall-id (match (utsname:machine (uname))
("i686" 120)
@@ -336,7 +342,10 @@ string TMPL and return its file name. TMPL must end with 'XXXXXX'."
"Create a new child process by duplicating the current parent process.
Unlike the fork system call, clone accepts FLAGS that specify which resources
are shared between the parent and child processes."
- (let ((ret (proc syscall-id flags %null-pointer))
+ (let ((ret (proc syscall-id flags
+ %null-pointer ;child stack
+ %null-pointer %null-pointer ;ptid & ctid
+ %null-pointer)) ;unused
(err (errno)))
(if (= ret -1)
(throw 'system-error "clone" "~d: ~A"
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Could you test this patch?
Now, there remains the question of CLONE_CHILD_SETTID and
CLONE_CHILD_CLEARTID. Since we’re passing NULL for ‘ctid’, I expect
that these flags have no effect at all.
Conversely, libc uses these flags to update the thread ID in the child
process (x86_64/arch-fork.h):
--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
#define ARCH_FORK() \
INLINE_SYSCALL (clone, 4, \
CLONE_CHILD_SETTID | CLONE_CHILD_CLEARTID | SIGCHLD, 0, \
NULL, &THREAD_SELF->tid)
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
This is certainly useful, but we’d have troubles doing it from the FFI…
It may that this is fine if the process doesn’t use threads.
Ludo’.
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* bug#21694: 'clone' syscall binding unreliable
2015-10-16 20:39 bug#21694: 'clone' syscall binding unreliable Ludovic Courtès
@ 2015-10-16 23:12 ` Thompson, David
2015-10-17 10:14 ` Ludovic Courtès
2015-10-22 14:38 ` Mark H Weaver
1 sibling, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Thompson, David @ 2015-10-16 23:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Ludovic Courtès; +Cc: 21694, David Thompson
On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 4:39 PM, Ludovic Courtès <ludo@gnu.org> wrote:
> I’m reporting the problem and (hopefully) the solution, but I think we’d
> better double-check this.
>
> The problem: Running the test below in a loop sometimes gets a SIGSEGV
> in the child process (on x86_64, libc 2.22.)
>
> --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
> (use-modules (guix build syscalls) (ice-9 match))
>
> (match (clone (logior CLONE_NEWUSER
> CLONE_CHILD_SETTID
> CLONE_CHILD_CLEARTID
> SIGCHLD))
> (0
> (throw 'x)) ;XXX: sometimes segfaults
> (pid
> (match (waitpid pid)
> ((_ . status)
> (pk 'status status)
> (exit (not (status:term-sig status)))))))
> --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
>
> Looking at (guix build syscalls) though, I see an ABI mismatch between
> our definition and the actual ‘syscall’ C function, and between our
> ‘clone’ definition and the actual C function.
>
> This leads to the attached patch, which also fixes the above problem for me.
>
> Could you test this patch?
The patch looks good. Thanks for catching this!
> Now, there remains the question of CLONE_CHILD_SETTID and
> CLONE_CHILD_CLEARTID. Since we’re passing NULL for ‘ctid’, I expect
> that these flags have no effect at all.
I added those flags in commit ee78d02 because they solved a real issue
I ran into. Adding those flags made 'clone' look like a
'primitive-fork' call when examined with strace.
> Conversely, libc uses these flags to update the thread ID in the child
> process (x86_64/arch-fork.h):
>
> --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
> #define ARCH_FORK() \
> INLINE_SYSCALL (clone, 4, \
> CLONE_CHILD_SETTID | CLONE_CHILD_CLEARTID | SIGCHLD, 0, \
> NULL, &THREAD_SELF->tid)
> --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
>
> This is certainly useful, but we’d have troubles doing it from the FFI…
> It may that this is fine if the process doesn’t use threads.
Right, so here's what 'primitive-fork' does:
clone(child_stack=0,
flags=CLONE_CHILD_CLEARTID|CLONE_CHILD_SETTID|SIGCHLD,
child_tidptr=0x7fc5398cea10) = 13247
Here's what 'clone' does:
clone(child_stack=0,
flags=CLONE_CHILD_CLEARTID|CLONE_CHILD_SETTID|SIGCHLD, child_tidptr=0)
= 14038
In practice it may not be a problem since most of the time you'd
'exec' after cloning. Is there any reliable way to get a hold of
whatever THREAD_SELF is? I wish the libc 'clone' function didn't have
that silly callback and behaved like 'fork', then we could have
avoided these issues altogether.
- Dave
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* bug#21694: 'clone' syscall binding unreliable
2015-10-16 23:12 ` Thompson, David
@ 2015-10-17 10:14 ` Ludovic Courtès
2015-10-28 14:39 ` Ludovic Courtès
0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Ludovic Courtès @ 2015-10-17 10:14 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Thompson, David; +Cc: 21694, David Thompson
"Thompson, David" <dthompson2@worcester.edu> skribis:
> On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 4:39 PM, Ludovic Courtès <ludo@gnu.org> wrote:
>> I’m reporting the problem and (hopefully) the solution, but I think we’d
>> better double-check this.
>>
>> The problem: Running the test below in a loop sometimes gets a SIGSEGV
>> in the child process (on x86_64, libc 2.22.)
>>
>> --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
>> (use-modules (guix build syscalls) (ice-9 match))
>>
>> (match (clone (logior CLONE_NEWUSER
>> CLONE_CHILD_SETTID
>> CLONE_CHILD_CLEARTID
>> SIGCHLD))
>> (0
>> (throw 'x)) ;XXX: sometimes segfaults
>> (pid
>> (match (waitpid pid)
>> ((_ . status)
>> (pk 'status status)
>> (exit (not (status:term-sig status)))))))
>> --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
>>
>> Looking at (guix build syscalls) though, I see an ABI mismatch between
>> our definition and the actual ‘syscall’ C function, and between our
>> ‘clone’ definition and the actual C function.
>>
>> This leads to the attached patch, which also fixes the above problem for me.
>>
>> Could you test this patch?
>
> The patch looks good. Thanks for catching this!
Great, pushed as 0e3cc31.
>> Now, there remains the question of CLONE_CHILD_SETTID and
>> CLONE_CHILD_CLEARTID. Since we’re passing NULL for ‘ctid’, I expect
>> that these flags have no effect at all.
>
> I added those flags in commit ee78d02 because they solved a real issue
> I ran into. Adding those flags made 'clone' look like a
> 'primitive-fork' call when examined with strace.
Could you check whether removing these flags makes a difference now?
How can we test? (Preferably not at the REPL.)
>> Conversely, libc uses these flags to update the thread ID in the child
>> process (x86_64/arch-fork.h):
>>
>> --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
>> #define ARCH_FORK() \
>> INLINE_SYSCALL (clone, 4, \
>> CLONE_CHILD_SETTID | CLONE_CHILD_CLEARTID | SIGCHLD, 0, \
>> NULL, &THREAD_SELF->tid)
>> --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
>>
>> This is certainly useful, but we’d have troubles doing it from the FFI…
>> It may that this is fine if the process doesn’t use threads.
>
> Right, so here's what 'primitive-fork' does:
>
> clone(child_stack=0,
> flags=CLONE_CHILD_CLEARTID|CLONE_CHILD_SETTID|SIGCHLD,
> child_tidptr=0x7fc5398cea10) = 13247
>
> Here's what 'clone' does:
>
> clone(child_stack=0,
> flags=CLONE_CHILD_CLEARTID|CLONE_CHILD_SETTID|SIGCHLD, child_tidptr=0)
> = 14038
You mean ‘clone’ from libc?
I guess CLONE_CHILD_{CLEARTID,SETTID} don’t hurt here, but they have no
effect either. That’s what the clone(2) page suggests:
CLONE_CHILD_CLEARTID (since Linux 2.5.49)
Erase child thread ID at location ctid in child memory when
the child exits, and do a wakeup on the futex at that address.
The address involved may be changed by the set_tid_address(2)
system call. This is used by threading libraries.
CLONE_CHILD_SETTID (since Linux 2.5.49)
Store child thread ID at location ctid in child memory.
And here ctid == NULL.
And indeed, kernel/fork.c in Linux does:
p->set_child_tid = (clone_flags & CLONE_CHILD_SETTID) ? child_tidptr : NULL;
/*
* Clear TID on mm_release()?
*/
p->clear_child_tid = (clone_flags & CLONE_CHILD_CLEARTID) ? child_tidptr : NULL;
So in effect, using NULL for ctid equates to not passing the
CLEARTID/SETTID flags.
QED. :-)
> In practice it may not be a problem since most of the time you'd
> 'exec' after cloning. Is there any reliable way to get a hold of
> whatever THREAD_SELF is?
THREAD_SELF is really not something we want to poke at; quoth
x86_64/tls.h:
--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
# define THREAD_SELF \
({ struct pthread *__self; \
asm ("mov %%fs:%c1,%0" : "=r" (__self) \
: "i" (offsetof (struct pthread, header.self))); \
__self;})
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
> I wish the libc 'clone' function didn't have that silly callback and
> behaved like 'fork', then we could have avoided these issues
> altogether.
Is the callback really an issue? We have ‘procedure->pointer’ after
all.
Thanks,
Ludo’.
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* bug#21694: 'clone' syscall binding unreliable
2015-10-16 20:39 bug#21694: 'clone' syscall binding unreliable Ludovic Courtès
2015-10-16 23:12 ` Thompson, David
@ 2015-10-22 14:38 ` Mark H Weaver
2015-10-25 20:59 ` Ludovic Courtès
1 sibling, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Mark H Weaver @ 2015-10-22 14:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Ludovic Courtès; +Cc: 21694, David Thompson
ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic Courtès) writes:
> Looking at (guix build syscalls) though, I see an ABI mismatch between
> our definition and the actual ‘syscall’ C function, and between our
> ‘clone’ definition and the actual C function.
Good catch! However, please see below.
> This leads to the attached patch, which also fixes the above problem for me.
>
> diff --git a/guix/build/syscalls.scm b/guix/build/syscalls.scm
> index 80b9d00..f931f8d 100644
> --- a/guix/build/syscalls.scm
> +++ b/guix/build/syscalls.scm
> @@ -322,10 +322,16 @@ string TMPL and return its file name. TMPL must end with 'XXXXXX'."
> (define CLONE_NEWNET #x40000000)
>
> ;; The libc interface to sys_clone is not useful for Scheme programs, so the
> -;; low-level system call is wrapped instead.
> +;; low-level system call is wrapped instead. The 'syscall' function is
> +;; declared in <unistd.h> as a variadic function; in practice, it expects 6
> +;; pointer-sized arguments, as shown in, e.g., x86_64/syscall.S.
> (define clone
> (let* ((ptr (dynamic-func "syscall" (dynamic-link)))
> - (proc (pointer->procedure int ptr (list int int '*)))
> + (proc (pointer->procedure long ptr
> + (list long ;sysno
> + unsigned-long ;flags
'long' and 'unsigned long' might not be the same size as a pointer.
Better to use 'size_t' for both of these. While not strictly guaranteed
to be the same size as a pointer, in practice they should be the same
except on architectures with segmented memory models.
What do you think?
Mark
PS: 'intptr_t' and 'uintptr_t' would be best, but they are optional in
C99 and not in (system foreign). 'ptrdiff_t' would be better, but
was not available in (system foreign) before guile-2.0.9.
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* bug#21694: 'clone' syscall binding unreliable
2015-10-22 14:38 ` Mark H Weaver
@ 2015-10-25 20:59 ` Ludovic Courtès
2015-10-28 4:53 ` Mark H Weaver
0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Ludovic Courtès @ 2015-10-25 20:59 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Mark H Weaver; +Cc: 21694, David Thompson
Mark H Weaver <mhw@netris.org> skribis:
> ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic Courtès) writes:
[...]
>> ;; The libc interface to sys_clone is not useful for Scheme programs, so the
>> -;; low-level system call is wrapped instead.
>> +;; low-level system call is wrapped instead. The 'syscall' function is
>> +;; declared in <unistd.h> as a variadic function; in practice, it expects 6
>> +;; pointer-sized arguments, as shown in, e.g., x86_64/syscall.S.
>> (define clone
>> (let* ((ptr (dynamic-func "syscall" (dynamic-link)))
>> - (proc (pointer->procedure int ptr (list int int '*)))
>> + (proc (pointer->procedure long ptr
>> + (list long ;sysno
>> + unsigned-long ;flags
>
> 'long' and 'unsigned long' might not be the same size as a pointer.
> Better to use 'size_t' for both of these. While not strictly guaranteed
> to be the same size as a pointer, in practice they should be the same
> except on architectures with segmented memory models.
>
> What do you think?
I had the same reaction, but posix/unistd.h in libc really uses these
types for ‘syscall’ so I thought it’d be best to stick to them.
WDYT?
Ludo’.
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* bug#21694: 'clone' syscall binding unreliable
2015-10-25 20:59 ` Ludovic Courtès
@ 2015-10-28 4:53 ` Mark H Weaver
0 siblings, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Mark H Weaver @ 2015-10-28 4:53 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Ludovic Courtès; +Cc: 21694, David Thompson
ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic Courtès) writes:
> Mark H Weaver <mhw@netris.org> skribis:
>
>> ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic Courtès) writes:
>
> [...]
>
>>> ;; The libc interface to sys_clone is not useful for Scheme programs, so the
>>> -;; low-level system call is wrapped instead.
>>> +;; low-level system call is wrapped instead. The 'syscall' function is
>>> +;; declared in <unistd.h> as a variadic function; in practice, it expects 6
>>> +;; pointer-sized arguments, as shown in, e.g., x86_64/syscall.S.
>>> (define clone
>>> (let* ((ptr (dynamic-func "syscall" (dynamic-link)))
>>> - (proc (pointer->procedure int ptr (list int int '*)))
>>> + (proc (pointer->procedure long ptr
>>> + (list long ;sysno
>>> + unsigned-long ;flags
>>
>> 'long' and 'unsigned long' might not be the same size as a pointer.
>> Better to use 'size_t' for both of these. While not strictly guaranteed
>> to be the same size as a pointer, in practice they should be the same
>> except on architectures with segmented memory models.
>>
>> What do you think?
>
> I had the same reaction, but posix/unistd.h in libc really uses these
> types for ‘syscall’ so I thought it’d be best to stick to them.
Okay, makes sense.
Thanks,
Mark
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* bug#21694: 'clone' syscall binding unreliable
2015-10-17 10:14 ` Ludovic Courtès
@ 2015-10-28 14:39 ` Ludovic Courtès
0 siblings, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Ludovic Courtès @ 2015-10-28 14:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Thompson, David; +Cc: 21694-done, David Thompson
ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic Courtès) skribis:
> "Thompson, David" <dthompson2@worcester.edu> skribis:
>
>> On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 4:39 PM, Ludovic Courtès <ludo@gnu.org> wrote:
[...]
>>> Now, there remains the question of CLONE_CHILD_SETTID and
>>> CLONE_CHILD_CLEARTID. Since we’re passing NULL for ‘ctid’, I expect
>>> that these flags have no effect at all.
>>
>> I added those flags in commit ee78d02 because they solved a real issue
>> I ran into. Adding those flags made 'clone' look like a
>> 'primitive-fork' call when examined with strace.
>
> Could you check whether removing these flags makes a difference now?
I removed them in commit after confirming that it affects neither the
test suite nor ‘guix system environment’ (on x86_64, with Linux-libre
4.2.3-gnu.)
Thanks,
Ludo’.
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