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From: zerodaysfordays@sdf.lonestar.org (Jakob L. Kreuze)
To: Jesse Gibbons <jgibbons2357@gmail.com>
Cc: 36876@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#36876: guix system delete-generations removes custom boot menu entries
Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2019 09:22:59 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87y306xwb0.fsf@sdf.lonestar.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <e5d7a9a83b44c739794a597411ae3ee090bac61d.camel@gmail.com> (Jesse Gibbons's message of "Mon, 05 Aug 2019 21:12:42 -0600")

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Jesse Gibbons <jgibbons2357@gmail.com> writes:

> Alternatively, we could save in the store a derivation for the the grub
> config generated from the bootloader of the configuration. When the
> user calls "guix system delete-generations", the derivation can be run,
> and the remaining system generations (if any) can be appended in a menu
> like when the user calls "guix system reconfigure". (Although it does
> not work for me right now, I'm assuming "guix system delete-generations 
> 2m" as described in the manual will be implemented in the future.)
>
> The immediate downsides I see to my solution:
>
> - It would take space in the store per generation, which can add up if
> the user does not often call "guix system delete-generations" and calls
> "guix system reconfigure" on a healthy basis. The user could just be
> reminded to call "guix system delete-generations" occasionally, and any
>  official service that automatically updates the system via "guix
> system reconfigure" can (and considering how large a generation with a
> lot of updated system packages can get, probably should) also be
> configured to call "guix system delete-generations".
>
> - If someone hand-edits the grub config the changes would be lost. This
> is the case as it is right now, and grub options can be edited in the
> configuration, so I'm not too concerned about this.
>
> -It would be much simpler to identify menu entries generated by guix
> that are no longer in the store and remove them, and remove all empty
> submenus. Parsing would make hand-editing grub.cfg more dangerous than
> a solution that simply scraps the hand-made changes and rebuilds as I
> propose, because the user doing the hand-editing would not necessarily
> be aware what patterns the parser checks. It would also be
> inconsitent: edits to grub.cfg being scrapped when "guix system
> reconfigure" is called, but not when 'guix system delete-generations"
> is called looks to me like a good way to introduce a bug to the more
> adventurous "Murphy's Law"-type users down the road.

I haven't tried it yet, but 'menuentry' seems as though it would be a
fairly simple structure to parse.

> These are just my thoughts. I would love to hear other downsides to my
> solution.

I prefer your suggestion to mine and think that the benefits may
outweigh the costs in this case. This seems to fit into the Guix idea of
purity a bit better than parsing a grub.cfg that may have been
overwritten by another system.

Regards,
Jakob

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  reply	other threads:[~2019-08-06 13:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-07-31 15:48 bug#36876: guix system delete-generations removes custom boot menu entries Jesse Gibbons
2019-08-05 16:05 ` Jakob L. Kreuze
2019-08-06  3:12   ` Jesse Gibbons
2019-08-06 13:22     ` Jakob L. Kreuze [this message]
2019-08-06 16:32   ` Danny Milosavljevic
2019-08-06 16:35     ` Danny Milosavljevic
2019-08-06 18:27     ` Jakob L. Kreuze
2019-08-23 12:28   ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-08-28 15:38     ` Jakob L. Kreuze
2019-08-28 21:39       ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-08-29  8:02         ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-08-29 23:35           ` Ludovic Courtès

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