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From: "Ludovic Courtès" <ludo@gnu.org>
To: Marius Bakke <mbakke@fastmail.com>
Cc: 37501@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#37501: [core-updates] Entropy starvation during boot
Date: Fri, 04 Oct 2019 11:15:52 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87y2y0x453.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87h84qdbmg.fsf@gnu.org> ("Ludovic \=\?utf-8\?Q\?Court\=C3\=A8s\=22'\?\= \=\?utf-8\?Q\?s\?\= message of "Thu, 03 Oct 2019 00:29:59 +0200")

Ludovic Courtès <ludo@gnu.org> skribis:

> I read some of these, and our ‘urandom-seed-service-type’ has the same
> bug as <https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/4271>.  Namely, we
> write the previous seed to /dev/urandom but we don’t credit the
> entropy.

Now that I think about it, ‘urandom-seed’ normally contributes 512 bytes
of entropy, but immediately after it *consumes* 512 bytes of entropy:

          ;; Immediately refresh the seed in case the system doesn't
          ;; shut down cleanly.
          (call-with-input-file "/dev/urandom"
            (lambda (urandom)
              (let ((previous-umask (umask #o077))
                    (buf (make-bytevector 512)))
                (mkdir-p (dirname #$%random-seed-file))
                (get-bytevector-n! urandom buf 0 512)
                (call-with-output-file #$%random-seed-file
                  (lambda (seed)
                    (put-bytevector seed buf)))
                (umask previous-umask))))

This comes from commit 71cb237a7d98dafda7dfbb5f3ba7c68463310383 by Leo.

What about deleting the seed instead of populating it right at boot
time?

That way, we would actually have entropy available at boot time.  In
case of a crash, the system may lack entropy upon reboot, but that’s
better than always lacking entropy when booting.

Marius, Leo, WDYT?

(If we wanted to go fancy, we could spawn a separate process that will
attempt to refill the seed minutes after the system has booted.)

Thanks,
Ludo’.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2019-10-04  9:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-09-24 15:48 bug#37501: [core-updates] Entropy starvation during boot Marius Bakke
2019-10-02 13:42 ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-10-02 22:29 ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-10-03 22:10   ` Marius Bakke
2019-10-04  9:01     ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-10-04  9:07   ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-10-04  9:15   ` Ludovic Courtès [this message]
2019-10-05 12:56     ` Marius Bakke
2019-10-05 20:08       ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-10-06 16:42         ` Marius Bakke
2019-10-06 17:38           ` Marius Bakke
2019-10-06 22:03           ` Ludovic Courtès

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