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MX_GOOD(-0.50)[cached: eggs.gnu.org]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; MAILLIST(-0.20)[mailman]; FORGED_RECIPIENTS_MAILLIST(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_FAIL(0.00)[2001:470:142::17:server fail]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:22989, ipnet:2001:470:142::/48, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[larch=yhetil.org]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RSPAMD_URIBL(4.50)[clisp.org:email]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[ludo@gnu.org,bug-guix-bounces@gnu.org]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; URIBL_BLOCKED(0.00)[gnu.org:url,clisp.org:email]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[gnu.org]; HAS_LIST_UNSUB(-0.01)[]; BAD_REP_POLICIES(0.10)[]; RCVD_COUNT_SEVEN(0.00)[9]; FORGED_SENDER_MAILLIST(0.00)[] X-TUID: Xfr31WqFepdk Hi, Bruno Haible skribis: > The question "What packages do I need to do normal C development?" should > really be documented. > > How about a doc section - at the beginning of the chapter > https://guix.gnu.org/manual/en/html_node/Development.html - that says: > > Packages needed for C development > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > > For C development, you will typically need the packages > make gcc-toolchain gdb > > Do NOT install glibc and binutils explicitly, as they would shadow > the 'ld' wrapper that is necessary for proper operation of GCC. Good idea, I did something along these lines: https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/guix.git/commit/?id=3D1f14e25c1969a9390= 8288cb302a572f3cbbaa478 > Additionally, the documentation page > https://guix.gnu.org/manual/en/html_node/Application-Setup.html > starts with the sentence > "When using Guix on top of GNU/Linux distribution other than Guix Syste= m ..." > but then the majority of the page applies to native Guix as well. > How about restructuring this documentation chapter into two pages: > - one that explains things valid about Guix in general, > - one that covers only the foreign-distro topics. The locale and nscd bits are foreign-distro-specific, but the for the rest I agree that something needs to be done. Thanks for your feedback! Ludo=E2=80=99.