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[72.10.149.53]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id f12-20020a05620a280c00b0069fe1dfbeffsm12344371qkp.92.2022.06.15.08.51.13 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Wed, 15 Jun 2022 08:51:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Maxim Cournoyer References: <87leu7j84f.fsf@gmail.com> <87o7z0xjxq.fsf@gnu.org> <87v8t3dxk9.fsf@gmail.com> <875yl2tfoa.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2022 11:51:12 -0400 In-Reply-To: <875yl2tfoa.fsf@gnu.org> ("Ludovic =?UTF-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?="'s message of "Wed, 15 Jun 2022 11:54:45 +0200") Message-ID: <87y1xyc4cv.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.1 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-guix@gnu.org List-Id: Bug reports for GNU Guix List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-guix-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "bug-Guix" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-To: larch@yhetil.org X-Migadu-Country: US ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1655308334; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding:resent-cc: resent-from:resent-sender:resent-message-id:in-reply-to:in-reply-to: references:references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=lE5UOKM2sgJdVsUbn42wEdFQgY493fAaXa8SEtn9eJs=; b=WecZ7uOS2Ql/L5OBmQvyBKxfp8xgLnA6JKe+P8Ijfy4Fgf4EYoSKA8oWGeX4VvVuzDB3xc 2HGPpPmFDsbpyqU3BXrCOA4YPr80M6f3x8Lpjx73BVNvcxPV7VWm/aoMfL+BvkKuaRo9vo qmRQMa5qsUmqFQtLq1Lu9f9F3wmYC3sPC8AwybQ8E1yJWFTuZDasUEujS+dI/n3EqSoQg/ cxpwTL7+2ZojY22XD8UjSEKUTGZYIt/xi2bfs8GQMwEvSy4S6Q60kITHqHlmT6T1RJRotM +5HqMiveGarp/qVzzaPLX9nh2mZUmFqVT96X8c2qyu83xMRwwrq8eiAuPzgcHg== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1655308334; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=swEW8ssmF1AEdyGj7OKwQhoIkrwuWCpRoUd4M4RNaxwkLCpPcPCv703Tre8MEQq/n+icA8 Lvs3NmVpWN2ErEfUyEFfQn/+owW2Z5FmvHUVZkrJcyblGaEHzg9NSOOnepns/KS11Ja08z E53LrrAxVF/w7N1WeaoT/Jk+eo8lxZZo1HaUbmTokTBKCCc8lkOgDsTloQySlH7/eneBpr srowRgimMaU9PctLWgsOVWEuOdMQg1kYXdkheIwvVx4X0A7+uTeIqjQmk5ZKNlRBuLVApi HVJXz3RI4xyIwZiVIB8UX4OhcnWGINmhvQE7oXTeftb9C0xJjIlKLXyXCEJovg== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=gmail.com header.s=20210112 header.b=Ns0A5B3J; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed)" header.from=gmail.com (policy=none); spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "bug-guix-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="bug-guix-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Spam-Score: 5.41 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=gmail.com header.s=20210112 header.b=Ns0A5B3J; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed)" header.from=gmail.com (policy=none); spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "bug-guix-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="bug-guix-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 9610922AA6 X-Spam-Score: 5.41 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: H1ttLJGwhQCQ Hello, Ludovic Court=C3=A8s writes: > Hi, > > Maxim Cournoyer skribis: > >> Ludovic Court=C3=A8s writes: > > [...] > >>> The message is produced by shepherd as a response to an expression that >>> =E2=80=98guix system reconfigure=E2=80=99 tells it to evaluate, in (gnu= services herd). >>> And all this happens as part of the live service upgrade mechanism. >>> >>> Admittedly, this particular message is not something one cares about as >>> a user, but it seemed safer to print messages shepherd might send during >>> that operation. >> >> Perhaps what we need is a proper logging infrastructure? > > The difficulty here is that the message comes from shepherd without a > priority/level flag. Usually those messages are well worth displaying > because they show what services got restarted, what failed, etc. But > this one message is the fly in the ointment=E2=80=A6 Yes, I wasn't clear but I meant *Shepherd* needs a proper logging infrastructure (although it seems to me the logging library in Guile-Lib could be used in any Guile project, Guix included -- the way the 'logging' module comes standard in Python and preferred to printing or reinventing a logging system :-)). Maxim