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[205.233.125.176]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id br10-20020a05622a1e0a00b0031e9bd3586esm4392729qtb.79.2022.07.15.18.33.47 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Fri, 15 Jul 2022 18:33:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Maxim Cournoyer References: <87d00los2d.fsf@cbaines.net> <87lfbkkr6r.fsf@gnu.org> <875z2jn30q.fsf@cbaines.net> <87o8gb6us7.fsf@gnu.org> <87tu7lys0b.fsf_-_@gmail.com> <87wnce7bwr.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2022 21:33:46 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87wnce7bwr.fsf@gnu.org> ("Ludovic =?UTF-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?="'s message of "Fri, 15 Jul 2022 15:17:40 +0200") Message-ID: <87y1wtsux1.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.1 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-guix@gnu.org List-Id: Bug reports for GNU Guix List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-guix-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "bug-Guix" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-To: larch@yhetil.org X-Migadu-Country: US ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1657935253; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding:resent-to: resent-from:resent-sender:resent-message-id:in-reply-to:in-reply-to: references:references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=Oeau2Xky95Pz80ofWDKYQaqLyRZLRmIkOV0AYRalOsU=; b=TtoUnVlgjKizn6NDq4uahin7kI2f1ABcbyGKW0MJvqu2luJlt373D9KIARqmRtg21PdU7F 1IKzui5P47Sv/+nNXYM7SrYgBsElmaIBhoVeS1+5SrxxFaT2dKvFk/8V6aDFg118spzTVB AG+mpuRCsapaEyV3I0RnmJVgshaWgHb01K4610YlQF8g6ZoVC8rPNdlfvJmwja77WyPS5q K5zVg48AkjG+F8MP+Es/osn6yFNzpHdyW6nC4RYynFI2HAo5eDHCGHbKP7nk+0qgnvAbCL oer+YExUMCmbWiyRC823VNPXMjuqcK2vHbLFp9vp4h7Mzx5N22Ffq5tZiID+5A== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1657935253; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=Tkn7LJq7BwGbaFGUYHWGBXG045RavNtF8nEUhvZ2hlaaQPGqEcpruOX3crs8/+4Y6QofxF BVkMeAK4LtRh5gX8A/BYNhEdIZpY/syc+fRFxIIWdYwHuzN3+XYDWwo+me6YPFJZaTLeqa 4W5UKNFY5mmRNE51X7E0vJnfFpe1zIgDo6XQtKG9jgjfTbsH3JHnA8JXmDpJcHi6Dkrsi4 NXOLVvWMDPB565ZGdRozg3gxaVDubNDcWXjYQtLaWBJnpPFzeXjpgTCme4WfdBRzFrKnwz MCy2QOzevlxN7LCdDEwKIEUmZT1Ww6NFKf5zqdgUTi955uu69b/LzUAgnDFvZw== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=gmail.com header.s=20210112 header.b=EtPE3nhR; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed)" header.from=gmail.com (policy=none); spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "bug-guix-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="bug-guix-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Spam-Score: 6.06 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=gmail.com header.s=20210112 header.b=EtPE3nhR; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed)" header.from=gmail.com (policy=none); spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "bug-guix-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="bug-guix-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 832402E706 X-Spam-Score: 6.06 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: fblI3qC2hWUp Hi, Ludovic Court=C3=A8s writes: > Hi, > > Maxim Cournoyer skribis: > >> I lost track of the details -- is this problem still likely to bite us >> in the future, or was something committed to mitigate against it? > > =E2=80=9CTime bombs=E2=80=9D are the worst of non-reproducibility bugs be= cause (1) we > don=E2=80=99t have workarounds other than changing the system time on the > machine that performs the build, and (2) we currently lack a way to > detect them. I see. Thanks for explaining! > In this thread, Chris and I proposed addressing #2 by offering ways to > automatically or manually run builds =E2=80=9Cin the future=E2=80=9D=C2= =B9. We could actually > similarly address #1 by running builds =E2=80=9Cin the past=E2=80=9D. > > In any case, the first step is probably to offer a VM service for Guix > System, similar to childhurd, with an option to specify the starting > time. > > So we=E2=80=99re not done yet, but the discussion has drifted beyond the > original GnuTLS bug report, so perhaps we can close it and take it > elsewhere? I think so! Few seems to visit these years old reports. If there's something to brainstorm about, I'd rather see it happen in a new thread on guix-devel. Thanks for the reply! Closing. Maxim