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[72.10.149.119]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id ay36sm2014449qkb.60.2021.11.12.17.58.26 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Fri, 12 Nov 2021 17:58:26 -0800 (PST) From: Maxim Cournoyer References: <87fss5udj9.fsf@netris.org> <87o86qqcm3.fsf@gmail.com> <87fss2q6cs.fsf@gmail.com> <87tugho299.fsf@gmail.com> <0DKGNVaPjVpUyTa5xXl22d8PvHrp7w-QlsfduQvSlaQCdp3QOluSPfBYQYcrxiNaiWAKbSiuwCWjOsS5qthfFO4GggKsL-bs3GaB-0Sgu54=@rixotstudio.cz> Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2021 20:58:25 -0500 In-Reply-To: <0DKGNVaPjVpUyTa5xXl22d8PvHrp7w-QlsfduQvSlaQCdp3QOluSPfBYQYcrxiNaiWAKbSiuwCWjOsS5qthfFO4GggKsL-bs3GaB-0Sgu54=@rixotstudio.cz> (Jacob Hrbek's message of "Fri, 12 Nov 2021 15:32:17 +0000") Message-ID: <87wnlcizpa.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-guix@gnu.org List-Id: Bug reports for GNU Guix List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: 51696@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: bug-guix-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "bug-Guix" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1636768768; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:resent-cc:resent-from:resent-sender: resent-message-id:in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references: list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post: dkim-signature; bh=e5UFvmx14/lKRJ9ZYT2kFb7hRWvwtzc3tDFMuPAoKzc=; b=OVD/71eLakoL0yi4y9IXHemyuPdE6y2kircHLeM/909S3AznTHCxc9kx/4rQElBw5knHo8 sID/nAzSavCS9x6UM66d9Tmw29ynTZbNzPJejnfwCYZWFi0s7q7nxlFSi9229bz+PIaqzW PJYDIdPwFMlgA9m2Puems5A10kxhCcGNfUPwoe6KPxviurRJmOZ7XRimIbMOKlEOPWCILK btELBLvJtPkh+7QIwQFrd8YOSxglha0LaX0tti8m3cx/rnSp5eu32pOapu+sKk2EqzKc2P sPB/V4yDrjLYnEl09ircV9JJS6RhuUfbW+Z8/RVh0M4nHXHGkUiM8MWy+C/qcQ== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1636768768; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=RL+6Dm42eAK+sfVZH46BMeYeJgypR0SMjSRdP0ygMYw8wO1N267w5liY5mWLHxkSAoIT9I 5twF3kQQxxB/qsSebWqvUSONsO74seC2p5k9EUMbECpDC1ju0nck7VczEc9zITgTOCzLz+ TBd/4WFTTLqCZX/83HHY+AGE03uEqwU+jNjSfv17WovAY5UNVxy0jbiaQkJjRLY6EIYCxy zS3e3nsy0+xKDRgAdm9RNIBxBI/gz39+KTF7wJbTUWkZg/2LoOO4mCzUT0kRjkPoWSKkGN sN7HBlUxuRuNRY3ESgq36iUm/V+AGAGL2L3le+ZrY4bNpZaa1mWikMy2H9Jmxw== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=gmail.com header.s=20210112 header.b=HdrSEmHs; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "bug-guix-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="bug-guix-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -1.83 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=gmail.com header.s=20210112 header.b=HdrSEmHs; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "bug-guix-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="bug-guix-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 6103F586E X-Spam-Score: -1.83 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: VgreRd89/MU1 Hi Jacob, Jacob Hrbek writes: >> I was curious because you said in your experience the clients other than Element worked well (which is not my experience). -- Maxim > > To clarify I meant that I didn't experience any issues sending or receiving messages on those clients and I asked "Is there any reason why should I check them?" in case you are aware of an issue that I should check. > >> When I used tried using it a couple years back it was consuming easily 1 GiB of memory in the browser, sometimes 2. -- Maxim > > The initial sync takes around this on my system as well which seems to grow depending on the complexity of the account e.g. account that joined X amount of channels and sent X amount of messages will need more resources for the login > procedure due to the zero knowledge federation. I see. For my usage, that's too much, as I'm not comfortable dedicating up to a quarter of my system memory for a real time text messaging application. > Could you try the client again for fresh data ideally outside of the matrix.org homeserver? I always have issues on the upstream homeserver so it makes me feel like its not representative of the network. > > --- > > FWIW there is a script for weechat that integrates matrix as well. Yes, I'm aware of it; as I wrote earlier, I had tried it and found it too buggy to be usable, unfortunately. Could you clarify what benefits would "adopting" the Matrix channel and space provide? Isn't there already a bridge to libera.chat (thus #guix) in Matrix? Thanks, Maxim