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From: Maxim Cournoyer <maxim.cournoyer@gmail.com>
To: "Ludovic Courtès" <ludo@gnu.org>
Cc: soheil@disroot.org, Maxime Devos <maximedevos@telenet.be>,
	46385@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#46385: User awareness of Anti-Features
Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2022 17:12:42 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87wndph779.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87v9aokrph.fsf@gnu.org> ("Ludovic Courtès"'s message of "Fri, 19 Feb 2021 16:22:34 +0100")

Hi,

Ludovic Courtès <ludo@gnu.org> writes:

[...]

>> * ads (I don't think any application in Guix has these?)
>> * tracking (should be patched out if possible)
>> * non-free-network-services
>> * non-free-dependencies (probably not allowed in upstream Guix, but maybe in a channel)
>>
>> The code behind ‘guix show’ and ‘guix search’ would need to
>> be adjusted to display anti-features, and the ‘guix install’ code
>> should warn if someone installs a package with anti-features.
>
> I’m sympathetic with the idea of raising awareness of those
> anti-features.  However, I don’t see a clear way we could “define” each
> possible anti-feature; some are definitely ill-defined (for instance, a
> service is neither “free” nor “non-free” in the same sense as software
> can be free or non-free.)  It’s also not entirely clear to me how the UI
> could make good use of it.

I agree.  It's not well defined, and to me following the FSDG seems an
already good warranty that you're getting only free software from a
project dedicated to fixing any freedom issues that may be discovered.

> That said, there are anti-features that we have always patched out in
> the past, such as tracking/“phoning home” and auto-upgrades.  Perhaps we
> could formalize that in our packaging guidelines?

It'd be good to have this documented, indeed.

Thanks,

Maxim




  reply	other threads:[~2022-06-09 21:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-02-08 13:28 bug#46385: User awareness of Anti-Features soheil--- via Bug reports for GNU Guix
2021-02-10 14:38 ` Maxime Devos
2021-02-19 15:22   ` Ludovic Courtès
2022-06-09 21:12     ` Maxim Cournoyer [this message]
2021-02-10 16:53 ` Leo Famulari

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