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From: "Ludovic Courtès" <ludo@gnu.org>
To: Maxime Devos <maximedevos@telenet.be>
Cc: soheil@disroot.org, 46385@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#46385: User awareness of Anti-Features
Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2021 16:22:34 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87v9aokrph.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <c3fcd7974b4493d931d6a1f3e2175d86426c536e.camel@telenet.be> (Maxime Devos's message of "Wed, 10 Feb 2021 15:38:36 +0100")

Hi,

Maxime Devos <maximedevos@telenet.be> skribis:

> I'll have to think some more on whether this is something Guix needs, but I
> do have a partial concrete implementation proposal:
>
> Packages can have a ‘properties’ field, e.g. from gnu/packages/bioconductors.scm:
>
> (define-public r-reactome-db
>   (package
>     (name "r-reactome-db")
>     (version "1.70.0")
>     [...]
>     (properties `((upstream-name . "reactome.db")))))
>
> Maybe add a ‘anti-features’ entry field for some packages?
> E.g.,
>
> (define-public some-twitter-app
>   (package
>    (name "tweet")
>    [...]
>    (properties `((anti-features x y z)))))
>
> x, y and z can be symbols, e.g. based upon from https://f-droid.org/en/docs/Anti-Features/
>
> * ads (I don't think any application in Guix has these?)
> * tracking (should be patched out if possible)
> * non-free-network-services
> * non-free-dependencies (probably not allowed in upstream Guix, but maybe in a channel)
>
> The code behind ‘guix show’ and ‘guix search’ would need to
> be adjusted to display anti-features, and the ‘guix install’ code
> should warn if someone installs a package with anti-features.

I’m sympathetic with the idea of raising awareness of those
anti-features.  However, I don’t see a clear way we could “define” each
possible anti-feature; some are definitely ill-defined (for instance, a
service is neither “free” nor “non-free” in the same sense as software
can be free or non-free.)  It’s also not entirely clear to me how the UI
could make good use of it.

That said, there are anti-features that we have always patched out in
the past, such as tracking/“phoning home” and auto-upgrades.  Perhaps we
could formalize that in our packaging guidelines?

Ludo’.




  reply	other threads:[~2021-02-19 15:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-02-08 13:28 bug#46385: User awareness of Anti-Features soheil--- via Bug reports for GNU Guix
2021-02-10 14:38 ` Maxime Devos
2021-02-19 15:22   ` Ludovic Courtès [this message]
2022-06-09 21:12     ` Maxim Cournoyer
2021-02-10 16:53 ` Leo Famulari

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