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From: Maxim Cournoyer <maxim.cournoyer@gmail.com>
To: "Ludovic Courtès" <ludo@gnu.org>
Cc: 57068@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#57068: Resizing mcron job in vm-image.tmpl interferes with settings
Date: Tue, 09 Aug 2022 21:14:29 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87v8r0nbm2.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87r11p932e.fsf@inria.fr> ("Ludovic Courtès"'s message of "Tue, 09 Aug 2022 11:30:33 +0200")

Hi Ludovic,

Ludovic Courtès <ludo@gnu.org> writes:

> Hello!
>
> Commit 945ad48cd8029fa77a643e00c7fd350e98cacca0 added an mcron job to
> ‘vm-image.tmpl’ that resets screen size every second.  I’m don’t fully
> understand the problem this was addressing, but it has two drawbacks:

The vm-image.tmpl is the template we use for our graphical Guix demo
QEMU image that can be downloaded from our site
(https://guix.gnu.org/en/download/ ->
https://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/guix/guix-system-vm-image-1.3.0.x86_64-linux.qcow2).

This commit was made to allow SPICE dynamic resizing to work, as
mentioned in a comment part of this commit.  XFCE lacks support for it,
as also mentioned in the comment
(https://gitlab.xfce.org/xfce/xfce4-settings/-/issues/142), which means
a new user downloading the image and running it in a SPICE-capable
viewer such as virt-manager or gnome-boxes will be dismayed that it
doesn't resize as they may have come to expect from other modern
distributions.

>   1. Kicking in every second is inefficient.

5% on my machine, as mentioned in the commit message.  The trade is
still on the winning side for me (dynamic resizing is a big upgrade for
the user experience in my book).

>   2. Resetting the screen size prevents users from changing it.  For
>      example, if I run:
>
>        $(guix system vm gnu/system/examples/vm-image.tmpl) -m 1024
>
>     then go to the Xfce menu, Settings -> Display, and change the screen
>     size, I have it immediately reset back to the default value.

OK.  I didn't know this could be workable use case with the stock QEMU
viewer when playing with graphical VMs.

> Should we remove this workaround, possibly finding another one?

I think we should use a desktop environment that is better maintained,
and which works well with SPICE, without hacks, given the improvements
to the user experience it provides, and given it's important that a
first user encounter with Guix be smooth and shiny.  GNOME could do it,
at the cost of a bigger image size.

There are other, perhaps worst issues with XFCE, which is that the
keyboard layout switcher doesn't work, and it didn't seem trivial to fix
when I looked at it.

What do you think?

Thanks,

Maxim




  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-08-10  1:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-08-09  9:30 bug#57068: Resizing mcron job in vm-image.tmpl interferes with settings Ludovic Courtès
2022-08-09  9:47 ` Ludovic Courtès
2022-08-10  4:46   ` Maxim Cournoyer
2022-08-11 10:30     ` Ludovic Courtès
2022-08-10  1:14 ` Maxim Cournoyer [this message]
2022-08-11 10:36   ` Ludovic Courtès
2022-11-01 17:40     ` Mathieu Othacehe
2022-11-03 14:59       ` Ludovic Courtès
2023-12-30  5:35         ` Maxim Cournoyer

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