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From: Mark H Weaver <mhw@netris.org>
To: "Ludovic Courtès" <ludo@gnu.org>
Cc: 22588@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#22588: root: UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY; RUN fsck MANUALLY
Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2016 08:49:24 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87twljjorf.fsf@netris.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87r3gnilmk.fsf@gnu.org> ("Ludovic \=\?utf-8\?Q\?Court\=C3\=A8s\=22'\?\= \=\?utf-8\?Q\?s\?\= message of "Mon, 08 Feb 2016 10:42:27 +0100")

ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic Courtès) writes:

> Mark H Weaver <mhw@netris.org> skribis:
>
>> I've been bitten by this once before, and a user on #guix did as well.
>> When there are problems in the root filesystem that fsck doesn't want to
>> fix automatically, the user is dumped into a guile prompt where PATH is
>> not set, and it's very inconvenient to run fsck manually.
>
> AFAICS, ‘PATH’ is set in ‘base-initrd’ in (gnu system linux-initrd), and
> ‘check-file-system’ in (gnu build file-systems) indeed expects it to be
> set.

Ah, good!

>> This is what I just suggested that the user type, with apologies:
>>
>>   (use-modules (ice-9 ftw) (srfi srfi-26))
>>   (define dirs (scandir "/gnu/store" (cut string-suffix? "e2fsprogs-1.42.13" <>)))
>>   (define e2fsck (string-append "/gnu/store/" (car dirs) "/sbin/e2fsck"))
>>   (system* e2fsck "/dev/XXX")
>>
>> Is there a better way?
>
> I think one can run:
>
>   (system* "fsck.ext4" "/foo/bar")

Okay, this is much better than I expected.  I asked the user to try
running "e2fsck", and when it wasn't found in PATH, I incorrectly
assumed that PATH wasn't set.

> What about changing the message to explicitly mention this command?

Sure, that would be helpful.

>> Speaking from personal experience, it's very painful to do anything
>> non-trivial in that REPL.  Even just adding readline would help a lot.
>
> The statically-linked Guile in the initrd lacks Readline support.  We
> could maybe work around that, but the initrd would become much larger.

Okay, nevermind then.

>> We should probably also handle errors from fsck specially.
>
> Currently there’s no Bash in the initrd.  Should we add one?  Our
> ‘bash-static’ package takes 1.4 MiB (I don’t think we can make it
> smaller.)

I'm not sure it would help much without also adding 'coreutils'.
Adding busybox might be worth considering, though.

> Another idea that comes to mind: what about providing a “shell” language
> in Guile?  It would automatically tokenize what the user types in and
> convert it to (system* …), plus it would have a few built-in commands
> like ‘cd’ and ‘ls’.

I like the idea of having something like this in Guile, but I'm not sure
we should rush to implement a half-baked solution.  When we have
something decent along the lines of Scsh, then definitely!

IMO, anyway, but I don't feel strongly about it.

More thoughts?

    Thanks!
      Mark

  reply	other threads:[~2016-02-08 13:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-02-07 21:21 bug#22588: root: UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY; RUN fsck MANUALLY Mark H Weaver
2016-02-08  9:42 ` Ludovic Courtès
2016-02-08 13:49   ` Mark H Weaver [this message]
2016-02-08 16:48     ` Ludovic Courtès
2016-02-08 17:52       ` Mark H Weaver
2016-02-08 22:49         ` Ludovic Courtès
2016-02-08 19:42       ` Christopher Allan Webber
2016-02-08  9:43 ` Ludovic Courtès

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