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From: Carlo Zancanaro <carlo@zancanaro.id.au>
To: "Ludovic Courtès" <ludo@gnu.org>
Cc: 22039@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#22039: [PATCH] 'guix system reconfigure' must start/restart/stop services
Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2018 21:50:51 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87sh24qtes.fsf@zancanaro.id.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87efdov32l.fsf@gnu.org>

Hey Ludo’,

> From the POV of the Shepherd, services carry no semantics.

In Guix we have as much information as possible about the 
services. We should be know which services should be upgraded 
automatically, which ones we should prompt the user to upgrade, 
and which ones are never safe to upgrade. Maybe we could add a 
"restart-strategy" to the shepherd-service object?

> Thus I think it’s reasonable to print a message along the lines 
> of:
>
>   The following services were upgraded: …
>   Please run “herd restart SERVICE” to stop, upgrade, and 
>   restart services that were not automatically upgraded.
>
> WDYT?

The main reasons I'm not super happy with this are that it's not 
discoverable (which is bad for new users), and it requires 
interaction (so cannot be an unattended upgrade). In particular 
for discoverability, some of our services don't take advantage of 
the Shepherd's ability to have multiple "provision" values. For 
instance, I just have to know that to restart wicd I have to run 
"herd restart networking".

Maybe this should be a separate ticket. Replacing the services and 
printing a generic message will still be an improvement on what 
Guix currently does, and I don't want to hold that up just because 
I think we can do better.

Carlo

  reply	other threads:[~2018-09-20 11:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-11-28 16:35 bug#22039: 'guix system reconfigure' must start/restart/stop services Ludovic Courtès
2016-01-08 10:04 ` Ludovic Courtès
2016-02-03 21:32 ` Ludovic Courtès
2016-02-03 21:34   ` Thompson, David
2018-01-16 11:17 ` bug#22039: ‘guix system reconfigure’ does not always load new services Ludovic Courtès
2018-08-26 12:15 ` bug#22039: [PATCH] 'guix system reconfigure' must start/restart/stop services Carlo Zancanaro
2018-09-01 10:49   ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-09-01 12:15     ` Carlo Zancanaro
2018-09-01 12:33       ` Carlo Zancanaro
2018-09-01 17:12       ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-09-02  3:43         ` Carlo Zancanaro
2018-09-02 20:39           ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-09-19 15:47           ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-09-19 20:56             ` Carlo Zancanaro
2018-09-20  9:47               ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-09-20 10:24                 ` Carlo Zancanaro
2018-09-20 11:08                   ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-09-20 11:50                     ` Carlo Zancanaro [this message]
2018-09-21 11:58                       ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-09-23  8:26                         ` Efraim Flashner
2018-09-23 19:53                           ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-09-23 23:06                         ` Carlo Zancanaro
2018-09-24  8:58                           ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-09-24 10:18                             ` Carlo Zancanaro
2018-09-26 21:46                               ` Ludovic Courtès

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