From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Ricardo Wurmus Subject: bug#36659: There should be an unattended upgrades service Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2019 14:46:50 +0200 Message-ID: <87sgr6gn9h.fsf@elephly.net> References: <20190715101711.gejdpqkyaq2yri3p@pelzflorian.localdomain> <20190716022907.534539fc@mailbox.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:35439) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hnMsH-0002ac-5a for bug-guix@gnu.org; Tue, 16 Jul 2019 08:48:06 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hnMsG-0001Ln-97 for bug-guix@gnu.org; Tue, 16 Jul 2019 08:48:05 -0400 Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:40864) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hnMsF-0001K7-6A for bug-guix@gnu.org; Tue, 16 Jul 2019 08:48:03 -0400 Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hnMsF-0007if-0k for bug-guix@gnu.org; Tue, 16 Jul 2019 08:48:03 -0400 Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-Message-ID: In-reply-to: <20190716022907.534539fc@mailbox.org> List-Id: Bug reports for GNU Guix List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-guix-bounces+gcggb-bug-guix=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: "bug-Guix" To: Matthew Brooks Cc: 36659@debbugs.gnu.org Hi Matthew, > If an automatic updater is included by default (which I think would be > a rather bad idea), it absolutely needs to be very easy for a user to > disable. Of course. It would be as simple as removing a service from the list of default system services in the operating system configuration. > Further, an automatic upgrade service wouldn't really add anything > useful, since cron jobs and scripts can already be used to automate > upgrading if one so desires. I disagree. We provide a whole lot of services that aren=E2=80=99t strictly necessary in order to satisfy what we think are reasonable user expectations. An upgrade service that=E2=80=99s easily removed or configur= ed seems nicer to me than having to muck about with cron jobs and scripts by myself. -- Ricardo