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[72.10.133.49]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id u12-20020a05620a454c00b006a716fed4d6sm436147qkp.50.2022.07.13.20.36.04 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Wed, 13 Jul 2022 20:36:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Maxim Cournoyer References: <20200627053551.63452543@riseup.net> <871rm0suma.fsf@nckx> <20200627221605.38116e75@riseup.net> Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2022 23:36:03 -0400 In-Reply-To: <20200627221605.38116e75@riseup.net> (raingloom@riseup.net's message of "Sat, 27 Jun 2020 22:16:05 +0200") Message-ID: <87sfn4xt5o.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.1 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-guix@gnu.org List-Id: Bug reports for GNU Guix List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-guix-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "bug-Guix" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-To: larch@yhetil.org X-Migadu-Country: US ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1657769835; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:resent-cc:resent-from:resent-sender: resent-message-id:in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references: list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post: dkim-signature; bh=jC/enhrnxPalpxbSTGAzdGCYVtNHZzh9WSTLr4xcIic=; b=le1sTzBMYRpFyha+/V/K/Wf1wcOfsqUApw76LWUfmCjiLCZyBxAC4XtoBEJrTYrVyyEV4S ZKc1cS2llzE2YFrhxNOM8aaag04ksmJsNiNBhsV+nl+biJ4ZDRgFim/puNO+aiXDNqzhRz 1YAKzcKobsgGixRHH7edFg8xlOgZmCH7Jc75Nr/180bZJur0da4Z+O76qKXIeJKU6TFiKE U9hV5G9UGGq1sQRYpSsclC7GqCJxSdCn2CCnj3UMbRUN3jyELHdZFD1ws2V50oKchKZKk1 09apzxqJCXlj8iDu6VpTO9/2YdXkghk6vPwwxBAi2bvGYpie+5GfjueEDOkiGA== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1657769835; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=Gq+vo2r1lWIaX4hyetI1UViHaIOF+upuvqKznkrWfx+t8fThPS+DO+NiYOTQSZdYz/aVxY g9+i55VtcxkN1WJionXtN+3/Z3K1peAmuKpNvqAivLVca89hfx2hVg5qCJZJbVpDtPJe4r xB1nUWoQi/LRLwhhVqm+7hfFP8IkcsDj7DJVMeM5Ypb9ZlJZSeiOxsp04nEcyHUzhnwpvM Hkt6IZwKqniB+koigcjkm65DW7E6/Yqczqm4M0kg0bXMwCQPHuGOHBXpEDkhTjBibKbGUo ODl5aAhwgfjRgCncPChxdPtZ5myr28lzzVlTCbYtFhy3s+NlY7Pf/VmgoI2ufw== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=gmail.com header.s=20210112 header.b=DKIZUl0v; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed)" header.from=gmail.com (policy=none); spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "bug-guix-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="bug-guix-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Spam-Score: 5.26 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=gmail.com header.s=20210112 header.b=DKIZUl0v; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed)" header.from=gmail.com (policy=none); spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "bug-guix-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="bug-guix-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 0D6ED3A5B1 X-Spam-Score: 5.26 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: AULfwuqcYuor Hi raingloom, raingloom writes: > On Sat, 27 Jun 2020 11:53:01 +0200 > Tobias Geerinckx-Rice wrote: > >> Hi! >> >> Thanks for the bug report. How are these two things related? Did >> GVFS start working when you fixed your certs? Is GVFS failing >> because of other unset search paths? They should be tracked as >> separate bug #s otherwise. > > No idea, I don't know enough about GVFS to know how it's initalized. > But this falls into the same category for me, ie.: a bunch of things > are not initalized. > But actually I've already made a bug report about it, it's just that > nobody replied to it. See 41927. I agree the user experience often suffers from the fact that: 1. it's not obvious that consumers applications are the ones typically causing environment variables to be defined. 2. the system and user profiles are not merged, which often lead to surprises (I have this in my operating-system, and that in my user profile, and they don't work together!). 1. would be (mostly?) addressed with #22138, and 2. with #20255. If you'd like to participate in fixing these, there are at least a patch to try in 20255, I believe. Given these issues are known and tracked already, I'll close this bug. Thanks, Maxim