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aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=gnu.org header.s=fencepost-gnu-org header.b=jqRgOmZv; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gnu.org; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "bug-guix-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="bug-guix-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -2.28 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=gnu.org header.s=fencepost-gnu-org header.b=jqRgOmZv; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gnu.org; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "bug-guix-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="bug-guix-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 69FF417939 X-Spam-Score: -2.28 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn1.migadu.com X-TUID: LihxA+PfJrSv Hi Maxim, Maxim Cournoyer skribis: > The vm-image.tmpl is the template we use for our graphical Guix demo > QEMU image that can be downloaded from our site > (https://guix.gnu.org/en/download/ -> > https://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/guix/guix-system-vm-image-1.3.0.x86_64-linux.qcow= 2). > > This commit was made to allow SPICE dynamic resizing to work, as > mentioned in a comment part of this commit. XFCE lacks support for it, > as also mentioned in the comment > (https://gitlab.xfce.org/xfce/xfce4-settings/-/issues/142), which means > a new user downloading the image and running it in a SPICE-capable > viewer such as virt-manager or gnome-boxes will be dismayed that it > doesn't resize as they may have come to expect from other modern > distributions. Understood. (I wonder if the QEMU Guest Agent can serve a similar purpose.) >> Should we remove this workaround, possibly finding another one? > > I think we should use a desktop environment that is better maintained, I think this is unfair criticism: Xfce is actively maintained, with a large user base. > and which works well with SPICE, without hacks, given the improvements > to the user experience it provides, and given it's important that a > first user encounter with Guix be smooth and shiny. GNOME could do it, > at the cost of a bigger image size. Right. I wouldn=E2=80=99t mind GNOME, but one reason we went for Xfce is t= hat GNOME is just too big, at least as currently packaged in Guix. > There are other, perhaps worst issues with XFCE, which is that the > keyboard layout switcher doesn't work, and it didn't seem trivial to fix > when I looked at it. Oh, I wasn=E2=80=99t aware of that, that should certainly be fixed. (I fix= ed a similar issue in GNOME some years ago, and I=E2=80=99m confident it=E2=80= =99ll be easier to fix in Xfce because it doesn=E2=80=99t have all those layers and daemons= and JavaScript and DBus interfaces. :-)) That=E2=80=99s a general issue with all Xfce installations, not just in the= VM image, right? Thanks, Ludo=E2=80=99.