From: ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic Courtès)
To: Lasse Collin <lasse.collin@tukaani.org>
Cc: 21784@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#21784: Old XZ tarballs
Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2015 14:37:56 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87r3k8jzd7.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20151102140718.4414a8d7@tukaani.org> (Lasse Collin's message of "Mon, 2 Nov 2015 14:07:18 +0200")
Lasse Collin <lasse.collin@tukaani.org> skribis:
> On 2015-11-01 Ludovic Courtès wrote:
>> Lasse Collin <lasse.collin@tukaani.org> skribis:
>>
>> > On 2015-10-30 Ludovic Courtès wrote:
>>
>> [...]
>>
>> >> Guix does automatically mirror tarballs via its “substitute”
>> >> mechanism. However, users can turn it off, in which case they end
>> >> up downloading the tarball from the upstream URL specified in the
>> >> package recipe.
>> >
>> > OK. :-) Why would users turn it off though?
>>
>> The substitute mechanism is very generic; it’s not just about
>> mirroring tarballs:
>>
>> http://www.gnu.org/software/guix/manual/html_node/Substitutes.html
>>
>> Some people might prefer to build things locally rather than download
>> pre-built items.
>
> That makes sense, but I don't understand how it implies that the source
> packages will then be downloaded from upstream servers.
It might sound counter-intuitive, but our server at gnu.org provides
substitutes for “things” users could do locally; these “things” include
building software, and downloading source. Quoting the above page:
Substitutes can be anything resulting from a derivation build (see
Derivations). Of course, in the common case, they are pre-built
package binaries, but source tarballs, for instance, which also result
from derivation builds, can be available as substitutes.
> Anyway, I'm sorry for the hassle and for perhaps making a mountain out
> of a molehill.
No problem. It is best if URLs remain stable over time, but I
understand there are cost constraints related to hosting.
Maybe an option for you in the longer term would be to use a service
such as savannah.gnu.org, which could host tarballs virtually forever
and which is mirrored.
Thanks,
Ludo’.
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Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-10-29 7:30 bug#21784: cannot install icecat! -=}\*/{=-
2015-10-29 19:20 ` Efraim Flashner
2015-10-29 19:23 ` Efraim Flashner
2015-10-29 19:30 ` -=}\*/{=-
2015-10-29 19:39 ` -=}\*/{=-
2015-10-29 19:51 ` Efraim Flashner
2015-10-30 17:06 ` bug#21784: Alternate xz-5.0.4.tar.gz URL Ludovic Courtès
2015-10-30 17:12 ` Andreas Enge
2015-10-31 10:41 ` Ludovic Courtès
2015-10-31 21:20 ` Andreas Enge
2015-11-01 10:20 ` Ludovic Courtès
2015-11-01 12:06 ` Andreas Enge
2015-11-01 20:05 ` Ludovic Courtès
2015-10-29 20:27 ` bug#21784: cannot install icecat! Ludovic Courtès
2015-10-29 23:07 ` -=}\*/{=-
2015-10-29 23:20 ` -=}\*/{=-
2015-10-30 7:53 ` -=}\*/{=-
2015-10-30 8:02 ` Efraim Flashner
2015-10-30 8:14 ` -=}\*/{=-
2015-10-30 15:45 ` -=}\*/{=-
2015-10-30 17:47 ` Lasse Collin
2015-10-30 19:58 ` bug#21784: Old XZ tarballs Ludovic Courtès
2015-10-31 18:29 ` Lasse Collin
2015-11-01 10:20 ` Ludovic Courtès
2015-11-02 12:07 ` Lasse Collin
2015-11-02 13:37 ` Ludovic Courtès [this message]
2015-11-02 14:24 ` Lasse Collin
2015-11-02 15:07 ` Ludovic Courtès
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