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Why does it need unrelated tools as some Bluetooth or JACK audio? --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- $ guix size python-ipython | grep -E '(jack|bluez)' /gnu/store/kbvyzkxrpf8w9v64jvjkr12hcailhflx-bluez-5.66 192.8 = 4.3 0.2% /gnu/store/7bhggk7fzvgjvgi9ykphgg21gwlfgx4k-jack-0.125.0 90.8 = 1.3 0.1% --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- Well, any idea why bluez or jack are in the picture? --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- $ for p in $(guix show python-ipython | recsel -C -P dependencies); do guix= size $p ;done | grep -E '(bluez|jack)' =E2=80=A6 nothing! --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- Last, the chain of dependencies looks like: --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- $ guix graph --path python-ipython bluez python-ipython@8.5.0 python-matplotlib@3.5.2 python-wxpython@4.2.0 wxwidgets@3.2.2.1 sdl2@2.26.2 pulseaudio@16.1 bluez@5.66 $ guix graph --path python-ipython jack python-ipython@8.5.0 python-matplotlib@3.5.2 python-wxpython@4.2.0 wxwidgets@3.2.2.1 sdl2@2.26.2 pulseaudio@16.1 jack@0.125.0 --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- Cheers, simon --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- $ guix show python-ipython name: python-ipython version: 8.5.0 outputs: + out: everything systems: x86_64-linux dependencies: graphviz@7.0.1 pkg-config@0.29.2 python-backcall@0.2.0 python= -decorator@5.0.9 python-jedi@0.18.2 python-jinja2@3.1.1 python-jsonschema@4= .5.1 + python-matplotlib-inline@0.1.3 python-matplotlib@3.5.2 python-mistune@0.8= .4 python-nbformat@5.3.0 python-numpy@1.23.2 python-numpydoc@1.5.0 + python-pexpect@4.8.0 python-pickleshare@0.7.5 python-prompt-toolkit@3.0.2= 9 python-pygments@2.12.0 python-pytest@7.1.3 python-pyzmq@25.1.0 + python-requests@2.28.1 python-simplegeneric@0.8.1 python-stack-data@0.2.0= python-terminado@0.10.0 python-testpath@0.5.0 python-traitlets@5.9.0 + readline@8.1.2 which@2.21 location: gnu/packages/python-xyz.scm:10859:2 homepage: https://ipython.org license: Modified BSD synopsis: IPython is a tool for interactive computing in Python=20=20 description: IPython provides a rich architecture for interactive computing= with: Powerful interactive shells, a browser-based notebook, support for + interactive data visualization, embeddable interpreters and tools for par= allel computing. $ guix show bluez name: bluez version: 5.66 outputs: + out: everything systems: x86_64-linux dependencies: dbus@1.14.0 eudev@3.2.11 gettext-minimal@0.21 glib@2.72.3 lib= ical@3.0.16 pkg-config@0.29.2 python-docutils@0.19 readline@8.1.2 location: gnu/packages/linux.scm:5750:2 homepage: http://www.bluez.org/ license: GPL 2+ synopsis: Linux Bluetooth protocol stack=20=20 description: BlueZ provides support for the core Bluetooth layers and proto= cols. It is flexible, efficient and uses a modular implementation. $ guix show jack name: jack version: 0.125.0 outputs: + out: everything systems: x86_64-linux i686-linux dependencies: alsa-lib@1.2.4 bdb@6.2.32 pkg-config@0.29.2 readline@8.1.2 ut= il-linux@2.37.4 location: gnu/packages/audio.scm:2507:2 homepage: https://jackaudio.org/ license: GPL 2+, LGPL 2.1+ synopsis: JACK audio connection kit=20=20 description: JACK is a low-latency audio server. It can connect a number o= f different applications to an audio device, as well as allowing them to sh= are + audio between themselves. JACK is different from other audio server effo= rts in that it has been designed from the ground up to be suitable for + professional audio work. This means that it focuses on two key areas: sy= nchronous execution of all clients, and low latency operation. --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---