* bug#25638: linux libre tarball has disappeared
@ 2017-02-06 21:50 Ricardo Wurmus
2017-02-06 21:55 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2017-02-07 13:28 ` Ludovic Courtès
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From: Ricardo Wurmus @ 2017-02-06 21:50 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 25638
Rohit Yadav reported in
<CAGKZdmYcHm0n7QeoyVTeXi59QeiXWgV-=OVRaz1ng-X+=cKUxw@mail.gmail.com>
that the linux libre tarballs for version 4.4.18 are no longer
available on any of the usual locations. The next version that has a
full tarball and not just a compressed diff is version “4.4.24-gnu”.
The lack of this tarball doesn’t hurt most users because a substitute
for the tarball is available on hydra, but this doesn’t help when
building everything without substitutes.
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* bug#25638: linux libre tarball has disappeared
2017-02-06 21:50 bug#25638: linux libre tarball has disappeared Ricardo Wurmus
@ 2017-02-06 21:55 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2017-02-07 13:28 ` Ludovic Courtès
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From: Ricardo Wurmus @ 2017-02-06 21:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 25638
As a short-term fix could we upload the tarball for 4.4.18 to
ftp://alpha.gnu.org/gnu/guix/mirror as done before[1] for 3.3.8?
[1]: https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=14851
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* bug#25638: linux libre tarball has disappeared
2017-02-06 21:50 bug#25638: linux libre tarball has disappeared Ricardo Wurmus
2017-02-06 21:55 ` Ricardo Wurmus
@ 2017-02-07 13:28 ` Ludovic Courtès
2020-09-15 16:29 ` bug#25638: [Hunting]: linux libre 4.4.18 " zimoun
1 sibling, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Ludovic Courtès @ 2017-02-07 13:28 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Ricardo Wurmus; +Cc: linux-libre, 25638
Hello!
(Cc’ing linux-libre@fsfla.org. This discussion is about Linux-libre
tarballs that vanish from ftp.gnu.org and fsfla.org:
<https://bugs.gnu.org/25638>.)
Ricardo Wurmus <rekado@elephly.net> skribis:
> Rohit Yadav reported in
> <CAGKZdmYcHm0n7QeoyVTeXi59QeiXWgV-=OVRaz1ng-X+=cKUxw@mail.gmail.com>
> that the linux libre tarballs for version 4.4.18 are no longer
> available on any of the usual locations. The next version that has a
> full tarball and not just a compressed diff is version “4.4.24-gnu”.
>
> The lack of this tarball doesn’t hurt most users because a substitute
> for the tarball is available on hydra, but this doesn’t help when
> building everything without substitutes.
When building without substitutes, users should end up downloading:
https://mirror.hydra.gnu.org/file/linux-libre-4.4.18-gnu.tar.xz/sha256/0k8k17in7dkjd9d8zg3i8l1ax466dba6bxw28flxizzyq8znljps
… which is still available.
> As a short-term fix could we upload the tarball for 4.4.18 to
> ftp://alpha.gnu.org/gnu/guix/mirror as done before[1] for 3.3.8?
>
> [1]: https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=14851
I’ll do that if there are no objections.
That said, if doesn’t seem right if the Linux-libre people remove the
tarball from one directory at ftp.gnu.org and we add it in a different
directory the day after. :-)
What do people think?
If disk space is a problem, I think it would be great if we could agree
on “pinning” specific versions that should never vanish from
ftp.gnu.org. That way we could ensure future reproducibility of
Linux-libre and GuixSD.
Thanks,
Ludo’.
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* bug#25638: [Hunting]: linux libre 4.4.18 tarball has disappeared
2017-02-07 13:28 ` Ludovic Courtès
@ 2020-09-15 16:29 ` zimoun
2020-09-15 18:45 ` Ludovic Courtès
0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: zimoun @ 2020-09-15 16:29 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Ludovic Courtès; +Cc: 25638
Dear,
This bug report #25638 <http://issues.guix.gnu.org/issue/25638> is about
the linux-libre tarballs for version 4.4.18 are no longer available on
their usual locations.
>> As a short-term fix could we upload the tarball for 4.4.18 to
>> ftp://alpha.gnu.org/gnu/guix/mirror as done before[1] for 3.3.8?
>>
>> [1]: https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=14851
Currently, such tarballs are not served by
<alpha.gnu.org/gnu/guix/mirror>, if I read correctly.
>> The lack of this tarball doesn’t hurt most users because a substitute
>> for the tarball is available on hydra, but this doesn’t help when
>> building everything without substitutes.
>
> When building without substitutes, users should end up downloading:
>
> https://mirror.hydra.gnu.org/file/linux-libre-4.4.18-gnu.tar.xz/sha256/0k8k17in7dkjd9d8zg3i8l1ax466dba6bxw28flxizzyq8znljps
>
> … which is still available.
Well, I am not sure to correctly understand the API of <ci.guix.gnu.org>
in order to see if the tarball is currently on the build farm.
Is such version reachable with "guix time-machine"? I guess no, so does
it make sense to keep the tarball?
> If disk space is a problem, I think it would be great if we could agree
> on “pinning” specific versions that should never vanish from
> ftp.gnu.org. That way we could ensure future reproducibility of
> Linux-libre and GuixSD.
Such issue is discussed in #42162, especially the thread starting here:
<http://issues.guix.gnu.org/issue/42162#4>
Therefore, if the linux-libre 4.4.18 tarballs is substituable on
<ci.guix.gnu.org>, I suggest to close this bug. WDYT?
All the best,
simon
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* bug#25638: [Hunting]: linux libre 4.4.18 tarball has disappeared
2020-09-15 16:29 ` bug#25638: [Hunting]: linux libre 4.4.18 " zimoun
@ 2020-09-15 18:45 ` Ludovic Courtès
2020-09-16 7:32 ` zimoun
0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Ludovic Courtès @ 2020-09-15 18:45 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: zimoun; +Cc: 25638
Hi,
zimoun <zimon.toutoune@gmail.com> skribis:
>> When building without substitutes, users should end up downloading:
>>
>> https://mirror.hydra.gnu.org/file/linux-libre-4.4.18-gnu.tar.xz/sha256/0k8k17in7dkjd9d8zg3i8l1ax466dba6bxw28flxizzyq8znljps
>>
>> … which is still available.
>
> Well, I am not sure to correctly understand the API of <ci.guix.gnu.org>
> in order to see if the tarball is currently on the build farm.
It’s available from
<https://ci.guix.gnu.org/file/linux-libre-4.4.18-gnu.tar.xz/sha256/0k8k17in7dkjd9d8zg3i8l1ax466dba6bxw28flxizzyq8znljps>
now (found a copy at hydra.gnunet.org!). (This URL is served by ‘guix
publish’.) There’s no GC root though.
> Is such version reachable with "guix time-machine"? I guess no, so does
> it make sense to keep the tarball?
Good question, maybe not.
>> If disk space is a problem, I think it would be great if we could agree
>> on “pinning” specific versions that should never vanish from
>> ftp.gnu.org. That way we could ensure future reproducibility of
>> Linux-libre and GuixSD.
>
> Such issue is discussed in #42162, especially the thread starting here:
>
> <http://issues.guix.gnu.org/issue/42162#4>
Yes.
> Therefore, if the linux-libre 4.4.18 tarballs is substituable on
> <ci.guix.gnu.org>, I suggest to close this bug. WDYT?
Yeah, we can probably close it. The more general issue of tarballs in
general, and linux-libre tarballs in particular, can be dealt with in
the issue above.
Thanks,
Ludo’.
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* bug#25638: [Hunting]: linux libre 4.4.18 tarball has disappeared
2020-09-15 18:45 ` Ludovic Courtès
@ 2020-09-16 7:32 ` zimoun
0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: zimoun @ 2020-09-16 7:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Ludovic Courtès; +Cc: 25638-done
On Tue, 15 Sep 2020 at 20:45, Ludovic Courtès <ludo@gnu.org> wrote:
> It’s available from
> <https://ci.guix.gnu.org/file/linux-libre-4.4.18-gnu.tar.xz/sha256/0k8k17in7dkjd9d8zg3i8l1ax466dba6bxw28flxizzyq8znljps>
> now (found a copy at hydra.gnunet.org!). (This URL is served by ‘guix
> publish’.) There’s no GC root though.
Thank you for explaining.
I did not know about hydra.gnunet.org, cool! :-)
> > Is such version reachable with "guix time-machine"? I guess no, so does
> > it make sense to keep the tarball?
>
> Good question, maybe not.
Well, Guix could keep all the tarballs until the Tarball Heritage is up. :-)
> > Such issue is discussed in #42162, especially the thread starting here:
> >
> > <http://issues.guix.gnu.org/issue/42162#4>
[...]
> > Therefore, if the linux-libre 4.4.18 tarballs is substituable on
> > <ci.guix.gnu.org>, I suggest to close this bug. WDYT?
>
> Yeah, we can probably close it. The more general issue of tarballs in
> general, and linux-libre tarballs in particular, can be dealt with in
> the issue above.
I am closing. Feel free to reopen if I am making a mistake.
All the best,
simon
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