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From: Maxim Cournoyer <maxim.cournoyer@gmail.com>
To: Mark H Weaver <mhw@netris.org>
Cc: 32026@debbugs.gnu.org, ludo@gnu.org,
	Jonathan Brielmaier <jonathan.brielmaier@web.de>
Subject: bug#32026: [PATCH 03/10] gnu: Define UPSTREAM-FIREFOX-SOURCE at the top level.
Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2023 03:55:40 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87pma9t2z7.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87h6vlfdq0.fsf@netris.org> (Mark H. Weaver's message of "Thu, 16 Feb 2023 17:26:52 -0500")

Hi Mark,

Mark H Weaver <mhw@netris.org> writes:

> Hi Maxim,
>
> Maxim Cournoyer <maxim.cournoyer@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> * gnu/packages/gnuzilla.scm (%icecat-base-version): New variable.
>> (%upstream-firefox-version): Likewise.
>> (%icecat-version): Define in terms of %icecat-base-version.
>> (upstream-firefox-source): New variable.
>> (icecat-source): Adjust to use the above newly introduced variables.
>
> I'm deeply uncomfortable binding toplevel variables, even unexported
> ones, that provide non-FSDG-complaint software.  I guess that the
> primary motivation for this commit was to make it easier to use the
> 'update-mozilla-locales' helper.

While I appreciate your concern, I think "hiding" the upstream source
would be akin to putting our head in the sand.  We do need that upstream
source to produce GNU IceCat from source, so it may as well be
convenient to handle while hacking on the GNU IceCat package.  As you've
noted, it isn't exported, so I think it'd be a stretch to say that this
private binding "steers" users toward non-FSDG software.  Note that we
also have a %upstream-linux-source procedure in (gnu packages linux).

> In an earlier message <https://bugs.gnu.org/32026#100>, I suggested an
> alternative way to use the code in your proposed
> 'update-mozilla-locales' helper which would eliminate the need to expose
> any *firefox* toplevel variables.  I hope you'll find that alternative
> approach acceptable, so that we can avoid exposing non-FSDG-compliant
> software in our toplevel bindings.
>
> What do you think?

See my explanation there that the need to maintain the various l10n
repositories commits/hashes is going away soon.

-- 
Thanks,
Maxim




  reply	other threads:[~2023-02-17  2:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 80+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-07-01 20:23 bug#32026: IceCat locales are missing? Ludovic Courtès
2023-02-14  1:55 ` bug#32026: [PATCH 00/10] Add proper locale support to IceCat and Icedove Maxim Cournoyer
2023-02-14  1:55   ` bug#32026: [PATCH 01/10] gnu: Add a 'update-mozilla-locales' helper for maintenance Maxim Cournoyer
2023-02-14  1:55   ` bug#32026: [PATCH 02/10] gnu: icedove: Compute a self-contained source Maxim Cournoyer
2023-02-14 21:32     ` Jonathan Brielmaier
2023-02-16  0:55       ` Maxim Cournoyer
2023-02-14  1:55   ` bug#32026: [PATCH 03/10] gnu: Define UPSTREAM-FIREFOX-SOURCE at the top level Maxim Cournoyer
2023-02-14  1:55   ` bug#32026: [PATCH 04/10] gnu: icecat: Update the "ach" locale Maxim Cournoyer
2023-02-15  6:39     ` Mark H Weaver
2023-02-14  1:55   ` bug#32026: [PATCH 05/10] gnu: icecat: Add a patch that makes building language packs reproducible Maxim Cournoyer
2023-02-14  7:58     ` Mark H Weaver
2023-02-14 13:58       ` Maxim Cournoyer
2023-02-14 21:06         ` Mark H Weaver
2023-02-15 21:32           ` Maxim Cournoyer
2023-02-14  1:55   ` bug#32026: [PATCH 06/10] gnu: Add icecat-l10n and icedove-l10n Maxim Cournoyer
2023-02-14  1:55   ` bug#32026: [PATCH 07/10] gnu: icedove: Automatically load system-provided extensions Maxim Cournoyer
2023-02-14  1:55   ` bug#32026: [PATCH 08/10] gnu: Add language packs to icecat and icedove Maxim Cournoyer
2023-02-14  1:55   ` bug#32026: [PATCH 09/10] gnu: icedove: Use the locale of the system Maxim Cournoyer
2023-02-14  1:55   ` bug#32026: [PATCH 10/10] gnu: icecat: " Maxim Cournoyer
2023-02-14  9:23     ` Mark H Weaver
2023-02-14 14:00       ` Maxim Cournoyer
2023-02-16  4:36 ` bug#32026: [PATCH 01/10] gnu: Add a 'update-mozilla-locales' helper for maintenance Maxim Cournoyer
2023-02-16  4:36   ` bug#32026: [PATCH 02/10] gnu: icedove: Compute a self-contained source Maxim Cournoyer
2023-02-16  4:36   ` bug#32026: [PATCH 03/10] gnu: Define UPSTREAM-FIREFOX-SOURCE at the top level Maxim Cournoyer
2023-02-16 22:26     ` Mark H Weaver
2023-02-17  2:55       ` Maxim Cournoyer [this message]
2023-02-18 20:46         ` Mark H Weaver
2023-02-19 17:43           ` Maxim Cournoyer
2023-02-20  1:06           ` Maxim Cournoyer
2023-02-16  4:36   ` bug#32026: [PATCH 04/10] gnu: icecat: Make language packs reproducible Maxim Cournoyer
2023-02-16  4:36   ` bug#32026: [PATCH 05/10] gnu: Add icecat-l10n and icedove-l10n Maxim Cournoyer
2023-02-16 22:45     ` Mark H Weaver
2023-02-17  3:37       ` Maxim Cournoyer
2023-02-18 20:22         ` Mark H Weaver
2023-02-18 20:42           ` Maxim Cournoyer
2023-02-16  4:36   ` bug#32026: [PATCH 06/10] gnu: icedove: Automatically load system-provided extensions Maxim Cournoyer
2023-02-16  4:36   ` bug#32026: [PATCH 07/10] gnu: Add language packs to icecat and icedove Maxim Cournoyer
2023-02-16  4:36   ` bug#32026: [PATCH 08/10] gnu: icedove: Use the locale of the system Maxim Cournoyer
2023-02-16  4:36   ` bug#32026: [PATCH 09/10] gnu: icecat: Remove gtk+-2 input Maxim Cournoyer
2023-02-16 22:50     ` Mark H Weaver
2023-02-16  4:36   ` bug#32026: [PATCH 10/10] gnu: icecat: Unbundle nss and nspr Maxim Cournoyer
2023-02-16 22:14     ` Mark H Weaver
2023-02-17 19:44       ` Maxim Cournoyer
2023-02-18  1:02         ` Mark H Weaver
2023-02-18 14:09           ` Maxim Cournoyer
2023-02-16 22:05   ` bug#32026: [PATCH 01/10] gnu: Add a 'update-mozilla-locales' helper for maintenance Mark H Weaver
2023-02-17  2:25     ` Maxim Cournoyer
2023-02-17 12:55 ` bug#32026: [PATCH v3 01/11] " Maxim Cournoyer
2023-02-17 12:55   ` bug#32026: [PATCH v3 02/11] gnu: icedove: Compute a self-contained source Maxim Cournoyer
2023-02-17 12:55   ` bug#32026: [PATCH v3 03/11] gnu: Define UPSTREAM-FIREFOX-SOURCE at the top level Maxim Cournoyer
2023-02-17 12:55   ` bug#32026: [PATCH v3 04/11] gnu: icecat: Make language packs reproducible Maxim Cournoyer
2023-02-18 21:02     ` Mark H Weaver
2023-02-19 17:35       ` Maxim Cournoyer
2023-02-17 12:55   ` bug#32026: [PATCH v3 05/11] gnu: Add icecat-l10n and icedove-l10n Maxim Cournoyer
2023-02-17 12:55   ` bug#32026: [PATCH v3 06/11] gnu: icedove: Automatically load system-provided extensions Maxim Cournoyer
2023-02-17 12:55   ` bug#32026: [PATCH v3 07/11] gnu: Add language packs to icecat and icedove Maxim Cournoyer
2023-02-17 12:55   ` bug#32026: [PATCH v3 08/11] gnu: icedove: Use the locale of the system Maxim Cournoyer
2023-02-17 12:55   ` bug#32026: [PATCH v3 09/11] gnu: icecat: Remove gtk+-2 input Maxim Cournoyer
2023-02-17 12:55   ` bug#32026: [PATCH v3 10/11] gnu: nss-next: Update to 3.88.1 [fixes CVE-2023-0767] Maxim Cournoyer
2023-02-17 21:38     ` Mark H Weaver
2023-02-18 17:27       ` Maxim Cournoyer
2023-02-18 19:49         ` Tobias Geerinckx-Rice via Bug reports for GNU Guix
2023-02-18 20:45           ` Maxim Cournoyer
2023-02-17 12:55   ` bug#32026: [PATCH v3 11/11] gnu: icecat: Unbundle nss and nspr Maxim Cournoyer
2023-02-19 19:23 ` bug#32026: [PATCH v4 1/9] gnu: Add a 'update-mozilla-locales' helper for maintenance Maxim Cournoyer
2023-02-19 19:23   ` bug#32026: [PATCH v4 2/9] gnu: icedove: Compute a self-contained source Maxim Cournoyer
2023-02-19 19:23   ` bug#32026: [PATCH v4 3/9] gnu: Define %icecat-base-version at the top level Maxim Cournoyer
2023-02-19 20:13     ` Mark H Weaver
2023-02-19 22:14       ` Maxim Cournoyer
2023-02-19 19:24   ` bug#32026: [PATCH v4 4/9] gnu: Add icecat-l10n and icedove-l10n Maxim Cournoyer
2023-02-19 19:24   ` bug#32026: [PATCH v4 5/9] gnu: icedove: Automatically load system-provided extensions Maxim Cournoyer
2023-02-19 19:24   ` bug#32026: [PATCH v4 6/9] gnu: Add language packs to icecat and icedove Maxim Cournoyer
2023-02-19 19:24   ` bug#32026: [PATCH v4 7/9] gnu: icedove: Use the locale of the system Maxim Cournoyer
2023-02-19 19:24   ` bug#32026: [PATCH v4 8/9] gnu: icecat: Remove gtk+-2 input Maxim Cournoyer
2023-02-19 19:24   ` bug#32026: [PATCH v4 9/9] gnu: icecat: Unbundle nss and nspr Maxim Cournoyer
2023-02-19 20:17   ` bug#32026: [PATCH v4 1/9] gnu: Add a 'update-mozilla-locales' helper for maintenance Mark H Weaver
2023-02-19 23:17     ` Maxim Cournoyer
2023-02-20 11:06   ` Ludovic Courtès
2023-02-20 15:35     ` Maxim Cournoyer
2023-02-22  9:19       ` bug#32026: LibreOffice locales Ludovic Courtès

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