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From: ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic =?UTF-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?=)
Subject: bug#30939: shepherd: detailed output should be placed into well-known
	location and not tty
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2018 09:36:20 +0200
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To: ng0 <ng0@n0.is>
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Hello,

ng0 <ng0@n0.is> skribis:

> Sometimes I succeed building a system generation with an OpenSMTPD config=
-file
> which has syntax error that aren't picked up at configure time. When I re=
boot,
> not being aware of this, I have to switch to tty to read the reasons why =
it
> crashed.
> Because this is a desktop system, I have to start the service again to see
> the error output directly from the daemon.

I think shepherd could capture stdout/stderr of the processes it starts
and make it available, in a way similar in spirit to what =E2=80=98journalc=
tl=E2=80=99
does.  That would allow you to see the output of the daemon that failed.

That=E2=80=99s the only solution I can think of.  Of course we don=E2=80=99=
t have to do
that if the daemon writes error messages to syslog, but not all of them do.

Thanks,
Ludo=E2=80=99.