* bug#74532: with-extensions does not add native extensions to the load path
@ 2024-11-25 17:49 Tomas Volf
2024-11-28 7:54 ` Ludovic Courtès
0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: Tomas Volf @ 2024-11-25 17:49 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 74532
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The documentation for `with-extensions' says:
> In the same vein, sometimes you want to import not just pure-Scheme
> modules, but also “extensions” such as Guile bindings to C libraries
> or other “full-blown” packages.
However it does not actually add those C libraries into
(guile-extensions-path), which means that trying to actually use a
library imported this way will lead to an error.
I guess `load-path-expression' in (guix gexp) needs to also append to
the `guile-extensions-path' based on the search-paths of the imported
packages?
Reproduction is simple. Make sure you *do not* have guile-yamlpp
installed in your profile. Then build the `test' into a store item.
--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
(use-modules (gnu packages guile-xyz))
(define test
(with-extensions (list guile-yamlpp)
(program-file "test" #~(use-modules (yamlpp)))))
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
And try to run it:
--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
$ /gnu/store/nq0sahcnph5sxms4irq4inv2hq2hfbzr-test
Backtrace:
19 (primitive-load "/gnu/store/nq0sahcnph5sxms4irq4inv2hq2hfbzr-test")
In ice-9/eval.scm:
721:20 18 (primitive-eval _)
In ice-9/psyntax.scm:
1229:36 17 (expand-top-sequence _ _ _ #f _ _ _)
1221:19 16 (parse _ (("placeholder" placeholder)) ((top) #(ribcage () () ())) _ e (eval) #)
259:10 15 (parse _ (("placeholder" placeholder)) (()) _ c&e (eval) (hygiene guile-user))
In ice-9/boot-9.scm:
3935:20 14 (process-use-modules _)
222:17 13 (map1 (((yamlpp))))
3936:31 12 (_ ((yamlpp)))
3327:17 11 (resolve-interface (yamlpp) #:select _ #:hide _ #:prefix _ #:renamer _ # _)
In ice-9/threads.scm:
390:8 10 (_ _)
In ice-9/boot-9.scm:
3253:13 9 (_)
In ice-9/threads.scm:
390:8 8 (_ _)
In ice-9/boot-9.scm:
3544:20 7 (_)
2836:4 6 (save-module-excursion _)
3564:26 5 (_)
In unknown file:
4 (primitive-load-path "yamlpp" #<procedure 7f405e4fd560 at ice-9/boot-9.scm:35…>)
In yamlpp.scm:
65:1 3 (_)
In unknown file:
2 (load-extension "libguile-yamlpp" "init")
In system/foreign-library.scm:
190:25 1 (load-foreign-library _ #:extensions _ #:search-ltdl-library-path? _ # _ # _ # …)
In unknown file:
0 (dlopen "libguile-yamlpp.so" 1)
ERROR: In procedure dlopen:
In procedure dlopen: file "libguile-yamlpp.so", message "libguile-yamlpp.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
Have a nice day,
Tomas
--
There are only two hard things in Computer Science:
cache invalidation, naming things and off-by-one errors.
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* bug#74532: with-extensions does not add native extensions to the load path 2024-11-25 17:49 bug#74532: with-extensions does not add native extensions to the load path Tomas Volf @ 2024-11-28 7:54 ` Ludovic Courtès 2024-12-02 23:40 ` Tomas Volf 0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread From: Ludovic Courtès @ 2024-11-28 7:54 UTC (permalink / raw) To: 74532 Hi, Tomas Volf <~@wolfsden.cz> skribis: > The documentation for `with-extensions' says: > >> In the same vein, sometimes you want to import not just pure-Scheme >> modules, but also “extensions” such as Guile bindings to C libraries >> or other “full-blown” packages. It’s not just bindings but also pure Scheme libraries like Guile-JSON. > However it does not actually add those C libraries into > (guile-extensions-path), which means that trying to actually use a > library imported this way will lead to an error. [...] > 190:25 1 (load-foreign-library _ #:extensions _ #:search-ltdl-library-path? _ # _ # _ # …) > In unknown file: > 0 (dlopen "libguile-yamlpp.so" 1) > > ERROR: In procedure dlopen: > In procedure dlopen: file "libguile-yamlpp.so", message "libguile-yamlpp.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" Usually, packages like these (guile-gnutls, guile-git, guile-ssh, etc.) have their .so absolute file name hard-coded, which sidesteps this problem entirely. I recommend doing that for guile-yamlpp as well. That said, it would probably make sense to arrange for ‘with-extensions’ to set GUILE_EXTENSIONS_PATH. Ludo’. PS: Your MUA sets “Mail-Followup-To: bug-guix@gnu.org”, which is kinda annoying because that’s the wrong address when replying to a bug. :-) ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 5+ messages in thread
* bug#74532: with-extensions does not add native extensions to the load path 2024-11-28 7:54 ` Ludovic Courtès @ 2024-12-02 23:40 ` Tomas Volf 2024-12-03 3:10 ` Z572 0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread From: Tomas Volf @ 2024-12-02 23:40 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Ludovic Courtès; +Cc: 74532 [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 3408 bytes --] Ludovic Courtès <ludo@gnu.org> writes: > Hi, > > Tomas Volf <~@wolfsden.cz> skribis: > >> The documentation for `with-extensions' says: >> >>> In the same vein, sometimes you want to import not just pure-Scheme >>> modules, but also “extensions” such as Guile bindings to C libraries >>> or other “full-blown” packages. > > It’s not just bindings but also pure Scheme libraries like Guile-JSON. True, and for those it works well. However the text documentation explicitly mentions "bindings to C libraries" as one of the use cases. :) > >> However it does not actually add those C libraries into >> (guile-extensions-path), which means that trying to actually use a >> library imported this way will lead to an error. > > [...] > >> 190:25 1 (load-foreign-library _ #:extensions _ #:search-ltdl-library-path? _ # _ # _ # …) >> In unknown file: >> 0 (dlopen "libguile-yamlpp.so" 1) >> >> ERROR: In procedure dlopen: >> In procedure dlopen: file "libguile-yamlpp.so", message "libguile-yamlpp.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" > > Usually, packages like these (guile-gnutls, guile-git, guile-ssh, etc.) > have their .so absolute file name hard-coded, which sidesteps this > problem entirely. I recommend doing that for guile-yamlpp as well. How it that usually done? I cannot do that *before* build, because then tests would not run (the library is not yet installed into the absolute path), and I cannot do it after, because I would need to rebuild the .go files after patching the source code. Assuming I have a guile library that creates a new .so library during the build, and the .so library must be loadable by the other modules in the library during the build (and for the tests), how should I approach that? I am pretty sure I cannot just patch the source code, since the library would not be installed into the absolute path yet during the build. Honestly, setting GUILE_EXTENSIONS_PATH via pre-inst-env seemed like fairly elegant solution. > > That said, it would probably make sense to arrange for ‘with-extensions’ > to set GUILE_EXTENSIONS_PATH. That would be great. My current work-around is (with-extensions (list guile-wolfsden) (program-file "audio-cycle-sinks" #~(begin ;; Bug 74532: Native extensions are not added to the load path. (eval-when (expand load eval) (let ((ext-path (@ (system foreign-library) guile-extensions-path))) ;; Just a temporary hack, we can live with duplicates in the path. (ext-path (cons #$(file-append guile-wolfsden "/lib/guile/3.0/extensions") (ext-path))))) ...))) which is anything but elegant. > > Ludo’. > > PS: Your MUA sets “Mail-Followup-To: bug-guix@gnu.org”, which is kinda > annoying because that’s the wrong address when replying to a bug. > :-) Thanks for letting me know, I was not aware of that. After reading (message)Mailing Lists bit more carefully, adjusting the Posting Styles and sending a bug fix to the Emacs' bug tracker, I believe it should not happen anymore. Sorry for the annoyance. -- There are only two hard things in Computer Science: cache invalidation, naming things and off-by-one errors. [-- Attachment #2: signature.asc --] [-- Type: application/pgp-signature, Size: 853 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 5+ messages in thread
* bug#74532: with-extensions does not add native extensions to the load path 2024-12-02 23:40 ` Tomas Volf @ 2024-12-03 3:10 ` Z572 2024-12-13 16:44 ` Tomas Volf 0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread From: Z572 @ 2024-12-03 3:10 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Tomas Volf; +Cc: Ludovic Courtès, 74532 [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 3628 bytes --] Tomas Volf <~@wolfsden.cz> writes: > Ludovic Courtès <ludo@gnu.org> writes: > >> Hi, >> >> Tomas Volf <~@wolfsden.cz> skribis: >> >>> The documentation for `with-extensions' says: >>> >>>> In the same vein, sometimes you want to import not just pure-Scheme >>>> modules, but also “extensions” such as Guile bindings to C libraries >>>> or other “full-blown” packages. >> >> It’s not just bindings but also pure Scheme libraries like Guile-JSON. > > True, and for those it works well. However the text documentation > explicitly mentions "bindings to C libraries" as one of the use > cases. :) > >> >>> However it does not actually add those C libraries into >>> (guile-extensions-path), which means that trying to actually use a >>> library imported this way will lead to an error. >> >> [...] >> >>> 190:25 1 (load-foreign-library _ #:extensions _ #:search-ltdl-library-path? _ # _ # _ # …) >>> In unknown file: >>> 0 (dlopen "libguile-yamlpp.so" 1) >>> >>> ERROR: In procedure dlopen: >>> In procedure dlopen: file "libguile-yamlpp.so", message "libguile-yamlpp.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" >> >> Usually, packages like these (guile-gnutls, guile-git, guile-ssh, etc.) >> have their .so absolute file name hard-coded, which sidesteps this >> problem entirely. I recommend doing that for guile-yamlpp as well. > > How it that usually done? I cannot do that *before* build, because then > tests would not run (the library is not yet installed into the absolute > path), and I cannot do it after, because I would need to rebuild the .go > files after patching the source code. you can use substitute* to adjust source. e.g. (or (false-if-exception (load-extension "/path/to/lib-some-object-file.so")) (load-extension "lib-some-object-file.so")) > > Assuming I have a guile library that creates a new .so library during > the build, and the .so library must be loadable by the other modules in > the library during the build (and for the tests), how should I approach > that? > > I am pretty sure I cannot just patch the source code, since the library > would not be installed into the absolute path yet during the build. > > Honestly, setting GUILE_EXTENSIONS_PATH via pre-inst-env seemed like > fairly elegant solution. > >> >> That said, it would probably make sense to arrange for ‘with-extensions’ >> to set GUILE_EXTENSIONS_PATH. > > That would be great. My current work-around is > > (with-extensions (list guile-wolfsden) > (program-file > "audio-cycle-sinks" > #~(begin > ;; Bug 74532: Native extensions are not added to the load path. > (eval-when (expand load eval) > (let ((ext-path (@ (system foreign-library) guile-extensions-path))) > ;; Just a temporary hack, we can live with duplicates in the path. > (ext-path (cons #$(file-append guile-wolfsden > "/lib/guile/3.0/extensions") > (ext-path))))) > ...))) > > which is anything but elegant. > >> >> Ludo’. >> >> PS: Your MUA sets “Mail-Followup-To: bug-guix@gnu.org”, which is kinda >> annoying because that’s the wrong address when replying to a bug. >> :-) > > Thanks for letting me know, I was not aware of that. After reading > (message)Mailing Lists bit more carefully, adjusting the Posting Styles > and sending a bug fix to the Emacs' bug tracker, I believe it should not > happen anymore. Sorry for the annoyance. [-- Attachment #2: signature.asc --] [-- Type: application/pgp-signature, Size: 832 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 5+ messages in thread
* bug#74532: with-extensions does not add native extensions to the load path 2024-12-03 3:10 ` Z572 @ 2024-12-13 16:44 ` Tomas Volf 0 siblings, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread From: Tomas Volf @ 2024-12-13 16:44 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Z572; +Cc: Ludovic Courtès, 74532 [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1355 bytes --] Hello, Z572 <zhengjunjie@iscas.ac.cn> writes: >> How it that usually done? I cannot do that *before* build, because then >> tests would not run (the library is not yet installed into the absolute >> path), and I cannot do it after, because I would need to rebuild the .go >> files after patching the source code. > > you can use substitute* to adjust source. > e.g. > > (or (false-if-exception (load-extension "/path/to/lib-some-object-file.so")) > (load-extension "lib-some-object-file.so")) > Thank you for the suggestion. I am not sure I like the false-if-exception part, but temporary adjustment of the (@ (system foreign-library) guile-extensions-path) should do the trick as well. One thing I am curious about, I can see you have put the load from absolute path as the first alternative. But if it fails, it still falls back to lookup based on the guile-extensions-path. I wonder whether putting it at the end of the list would not be better, that way you could still replace the library in the spirit of LD_PRELOAD by setting the appropriate environment variable. And if reproducibility is the priority, then even the `or' might not make sense. Any thoughts on that? Thanks, Tomas -- There are only two hard things in Computer Science: cache invalidation, naming things and off-by-one errors. [-- Attachment #2: signature.asc --] [-- Type: application/pgp-signature, Size: 853 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 5+ messages in thread
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