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From: ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic Courtès)
To: Efraim Flashner <efraim@flashner.co.il>
Cc: 22039@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#22039: [PATCH] 'guix system reconfigure' must start/restart/stop services
Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2018 21:53:51 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87lg7srnw0.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180923082613.GA1226@macbook41> (Efraim Flashner's message of "Sun, 23 Sep 2018 11:26:13 +0300")

Hi,

Efraim Flashner <efraim@flashner.co.il> skribis:

> On Fri, Sep 21, 2018 at 01:58:03PM +0200, Ludovic Courtès wrote:

[...]

>> Note that FHS distros don’t do better: either the service is
>> hot-replaceable (nginx; I don’t know of any other) or can at least
>> reload its config (sshd, etc.), and then it’s dynamically upgraded, or
>> it’ll be upgraded next time you restart it.
>> 
>> That’s because fundamentally only the user can tell whether now is a
>> good time to restart, say, sshd.
>
> Not exactly the point, but Debian regularly restarts sshd for me on a
> remote box (somehow) without me losing the connection.

Good point!  I think sshd opens child processes for new sessions, and
thanks to that it falls into the category of service that can be
hot-replaced.

For hot-swappable daemons, I think we should provide a specific ‘reload’
or ‘upgrade’ action as was discussed at
<https://issues.guix.info/issue/26830>.  That way, to figure out the
right strategy, we would just check whether the service supports that
action.

Thanks,
Ludo’.

  reply	other threads:[~2018-09-23 19:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-11-28 16:35 bug#22039: 'guix system reconfigure' must start/restart/stop services Ludovic Courtès
2016-01-08 10:04 ` Ludovic Courtès
2016-02-03 21:32 ` Ludovic Courtès
2016-02-03 21:34   ` Thompson, David
2018-01-16 11:17 ` bug#22039: ‘guix system reconfigure’ does not always load new services Ludovic Courtès
2018-08-26 12:15 ` bug#22039: [PATCH] 'guix system reconfigure' must start/restart/stop services Carlo Zancanaro
2018-09-01 10:49   ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-09-01 12:15     ` Carlo Zancanaro
2018-09-01 12:33       ` Carlo Zancanaro
2018-09-01 17:12       ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-09-02  3:43         ` Carlo Zancanaro
2018-09-02 20:39           ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-09-19 15:47           ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-09-19 20:56             ` Carlo Zancanaro
2018-09-20  9:47               ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-09-20 10:24                 ` Carlo Zancanaro
2018-09-20 11:08                   ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-09-20 11:50                     ` Carlo Zancanaro
2018-09-21 11:58                       ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-09-23  8:26                         ` Efraim Flashner
2018-09-23 19:53                           ` Ludovic Courtès [this message]
2018-09-23 23:06                         ` Carlo Zancanaro
2018-09-24  8:58                           ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-09-24 10:18                             ` Carlo Zancanaro
2018-09-26 21:46                               ` Ludovic Courtès

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