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aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=disroot.org header.s=mail header.b=P8IbJDaU; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of bug-guix-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=bug-guix-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -0.96 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=disroot.org header.s=mail header.b=P8IbJDaU; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gnu.org; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of bug-guix-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=bug-guix-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: E91C1A643 X-Spam-Score: -0.96 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: JFHTq9tt4Bq5 Ludovic Court=C3=A8s writes: >> How can I use a package definition from core-updates with guix build or >> in a system configuration if it is not available on Guix's master >> branch? > > You can do better :-), you can install 2.0 from master like so: > > guix install inetutils --with-latest=3Dinetutils Thank you for sharing that command. I prefer to build locally over using substitutes. When I try to run `guix build inetutils --no-substitutes --with-latest=3Dinetutils` it does not complete because there is an interactive prompt. The prompt says "Would you like to add this key to your keyring ''?". I have a substitute server that is sequentially building packages unattended and this would cause it to become stuck and make no further progress. >> On the inetutils mailing list it was suggested that I try inetutils 2.0 >> on the core-updates branch. I can successfully build inetutils 2.0 from >> the core-updates branch even with IPv6 disabled. >> >> What is the purpose of the core-updates branch? > > The =E2=80=98core-updates=E2=80=99 branch contains updates to core packag= es and core > Guix functionality that entails a rebuild of all the packages. In that > branch we put package upgrades that would otherwise lead to too many > rebuilds (info "(guix) Submitting Patches"). Thank you for explaining this. --- What is the process for a package to be brought into master from core-updat= es? --- I would rebuild all the packages on my system if I could use inetutils 2.0. Is there a way that I can rebuild all the packages I am using that depend on inetutils to use inetutils 2.0 (or more generally any newer version of package from core-updates)? >> Can the Guix master branch provide inetutils 2.0 instead of 1.9.4? > > No: =E2=80=98guix refresh -l inetutils=E2=80=99 shows that almost 2,000 p= ackages depend > on inetutils. > > That said, if needed, =E2=80=98master=E2=80=99 could provide 2.0 in addit= ion to 1.9, as > is done for GDB for instance. Would having multiple versions of inetutils in master also create multiple versions of packages that depend on inetutils for example a version of isc-dhcp that depends on inetutils 1.9 and another that depends on inetutils 2.0? --- Not having inetutils 2.0 in master appears to break how I connect to the internet using Guix if I do both of these: * Disable IPv6 ** See my previous email in this thread that explains the rationale on why I am disabling IPv6. * Build from source isc-dhcp fails to build because it depends on inetutils 1.9 which is failing. I am using isc-dhcp when I connecting to the internet. >> What are the reasons I might not want to use a package from the >> core-updates branch? > > =E2=80=98core-updates=E2=80=99 is where we put core changes as I wrote, i= ncluding > experimental changes. That branch also does not receive security > updates in a timely fashion. So it=E2=80=99s really a branch for develop= ers > working on core improvements. Thank you for explaining this.