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From: Maxim Cournoyer <maxim.cournoyer@gmail.com>
To: Maxime Devos <maximedevos@telenet.be>
Cc: 54691@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#54691: fortune-mod propagates various non-nice things
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2022 21:30:59 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87leswxyy4.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3fc3794df2d837c16ce768594c3ea9086b5f0abf.camel@telenet.be> (Maxime Devos's message of "Sun, 03 Apr 2022 15:09:25 +0200")

Hi Maxime,

Maxime Devos <maximedevos@telenet.be> writes:

> Hi guix,
>
> fortune-mod currently propagates (in the non-technical sense) various
> non-nice things like objectification, misogeny, religious intolerance,
> anti-mathematician-ism (?) and date rape.  That is not an exhaustive
> list, these are just the first few things I encountered with "fortune
> off".
>
> To reproduce the issue, run "fortune off" a few times.  Or just
> "fortune", though then it can take a bit longer.
>
> There are also a few non-nice things in the non-off set.  E.g.:
>
> $ fortune
>> User n.:
>>	A programmer who will believe anything you tell him.
> # ^ from 'definitions'
>
> As such, just removing 'off' doesn't seem sufficient.  Unless Someone™
> volunteers to remove the anti-fortunes (*), I would just remove
> 'fortune-mod', given that it seems to serve no practical purpose byond
> being non-nice.  WDYT?

'off' here apparently means the 'offensive' database, as explained by
Liliana; seems it offends alright :-).

The GNU FSDG has says nothing about what programs may or may not
contain, for a good reason: the line to draw could get very subjective
(similar to how the GPL ).

I don't think we should judge our software on terms falling outside of
the Free Software Distribution Guidelines, but a simple thing we could
add here would be a note in the description to caution the user that
running

@example
fortune off
@end example

is intended to be offensive.

What do you think?

Thanks,

Maxim




  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-07-14  1:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-04-03 13:09 bug#54691: fortune-mod propagates various non-nice things Maxime Devos
2022-04-03 17:26 ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-04-03 18:12   ` Maxime Devos
2022-04-03 18:41   ` Maxime Devos
2022-04-04 10:41   ` Maxime Devos
2022-07-19 19:20   ` Maxime Devos
2022-07-20  4:31     ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-07-20  8:45       ` Maxime Devos
2022-07-20 16:57         ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-07-20 18:50           ` Maxime Devos
2022-04-03 18:20 ` Maxime Devos
2022-07-14  1:30 ` Maxim Cournoyer [this message]
2022-07-14 13:00   ` Csepp
2022-07-14 14:55     ` Maxim Cournoyer
2022-07-19 18:54       ` Maxime Devos
2022-07-19 19:45   ` Maxime Devos
2022-07-23 15:06 ` bug#54691: [PATCH v3 2/6] gnu: Add daikichi Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-07-23 15:06 ` bug#54691: [PATCH v2 1/5] " Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-07-23 15:06 ` bug#54691: [PATCH " Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-07-23 15:11 ` bug#54691: [PATCH v3 3/6] gnu: Add fortunes-jkirchartz Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-07-23 15:11 ` bug#54691: [PATCH v2 2/5] " Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-07-23 15:11 ` bug#54691: [PATCH " Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-07-23 19:54   ` Maxime Devos
2022-07-23 20:43     ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-07-23 21:41       ` Maxime Devos
2022-07-23 21:52         ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-07-23 22:13           ` Maxime Devos
2022-07-23 19:56   ` Maxime Devos
2022-07-23 20:53     ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-07-23 22:01       ` Maxime Devos
2022-07-24  1:09       ` bokr
2022-07-23 15:13 ` bug#54691: [PATCH 3/5] gnu: Remove fortune-mod Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-07-23 19:58   ` Maxime Devos
2022-07-23 20:54     ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-07-23 15:13 ` bug#54691: [PATCH v2 " Liliana Marie Prikler
     [not found]   ` <87y1w5sarm.fsf_-_@gnu.org>
2022-08-03 17:09     ` bug#54691: fortune-mod propagates various non-nice things Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-08-04 12:23       ` Ludovic Courtès
2022-08-04 15:37         ` [bug#56599] " Tobias Geerinckx-Rice via Guix-patches via
2022-08-04 17:12           ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-08-04 19:58             ` Tobias Geerinckx-Rice via Bug reports for GNU Guix
     [not found]               ` <20220806230112.GA16948@LionPure>
2022-08-06 23:05                 ` Maxime Devos
2022-07-23 15:13 ` bug#54691: [PATCH v3 4/6] gnu: Remove fortune-mod Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-07-23 15:16 ` bug#54691: [PATCH v2 4/5] gnu: Remove rinutils Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-07-24 10:33   ` paren--- via Bug reports for GNU Guix
2022-07-24 11:27     ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-07-23 15:16 ` bug#54691: [PATCH v3 5/6] " Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-07-23 15:16 ` bug#54691: [PATCH 4/5] " Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-07-23 15:17 ` bug#54691: [PATCH 5/5] gnu: Remove shlomif-cmake-modules Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-07-23 15:17 ` bug#54691: [PATCH v2 " Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-07-23 15:17 ` bug#54691: [PATCH v3 6/6] " Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-08-13  9:26 ` bug#54691: [PATCH v3 1/6] build-system: copy: Support #:tests? Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-08-28 22:16   ` Liliana Marie Prikler

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