From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: "-=}\\*/{=-" Subject: bug#21784: cannot install icecat! Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2015 07:30:39 +0000 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11430b6acc23c20523394afc Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:52917) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZrmJK-0001Hi-6T for bug-guix@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Oct 2015 08:28:07 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZrmJJ-0001Uj-0c for bug-guix@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Oct 2015 08:28:06 -0400 Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:52663) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZrmJI-0001Uf-Tp for bug-guix@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Oct 2015 08:28:04 -0400 Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZrmJI-0005oT-Jj for bug-guix@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Oct 2015 08:28:04 -0400 Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-Message-ID: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:34490) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zrhfo-0006eE-Kw for bug-guix@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Oct 2015 03:31:01 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zrhfn-0002NM-Hp for bug-guix@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Oct 2015 03:31:00 -0400 Received: from mail-vk0-x232.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400c:c05::232]:34926) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zrhfn-0002NH-5O for bug-guix@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Oct 2015 03:30:59 -0400 Received: by vkfw189 with SMTP id w189so21031564vkf.2 for ; Thu, 29 Oct 2015 00:30:58 -0700 (PDT) List-Id: Bug reports for GNU Guix List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-guix-bounces+gcggb-bug-guix=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: bug-guix-bounces+gcggb-bug-guix=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: 21784@debbugs.gnu.org --001a11430b6acc23c20523394afc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 starting download of `/gnu/store/0d7xnp3nji2mi4cw4jmd3mzbpija9a5a-xz-5.0.4.tar.gz' from ` http://tukaani.org/xz/xz-5.0.4.tar.gz'... ERROR: download failed "http://tukaani.org/xz/xz-5.0.4.tar.gz" 403 "Forbidden" failed to download "/gnu/store/0d7xnp3nji2mi4cw4jmd3mzbpija9a5a-xz-5.0.4.tar.gz" from " http://tukaani.org/xz/xz-5.0.4.tar.gz" builder for `/gnu/store/1y6b3ar37ff4q16714m77d56giv01cr5-xz-5.0.4.tar.gz.drv' failed to produce output path `/gnu/store/0d7xnp3nji2mi4cw4jmd3mzbpija9a5a-xz-5.0.4.tar.gz' --001a11430b6acc23c20523394afc Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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--001a11430b6acc23c20523394afc-- From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Efraim Flashner Subject: bug#21784: cannot install icecat! Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2015 21:20:19 +0200 Message-ID: <20151029212019.6f59107f@debian-netbook> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; boundary="Sig_/rbV0waOflJ66wshTpBGC=ye"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:47240) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zrskz-0006PV-5m for bug-guix@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Oct 2015 15:21:06 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zrskw-0003z0-G3 for bug-guix@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Oct 2015 15:21:05 -0400 Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:53850) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zrskw-0003yw-Cy for bug-guix@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Oct 2015 15:21:02 -0400 Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Zrskw-0007QK-2N for bug-guix@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Oct 2015 15:21:02 -0400 Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-Message-ID: In-Reply-To: List-Id: Bug reports for GNU Guix List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-guix-bounces+gcggb-bug-guix=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: bug-guix-bounces+gcggb-bug-guix=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: "-=}\\*/{=-" Cc: 21784@debbugs.gnu.org --Sig_/rbV0waOflJ66wshTpBGC=ye Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 29 Oct 2015 07:30:39 +0000 "-=3D}\\*/{=3D-" wrote: > starting download of > `/gnu/store/0d7xnp3nji2mi4cw4jmd3mzbpija9a5a-xz-5.0.4.tar.gz' from ` > http://tukaani.org/xz/xz-5.0.4.tar.gz'... > ERROR: download failed "http://tukaani.org/xz/xz-5.0.4.tar.gz" 403 > "Forbidden" > failed to download > "/gnu/store/0d7xnp3nji2mi4cw4jmd3mzbpija9a5a-xz-5.0.4.tar.gz" from " > http://tukaani.org/xz/xz-5.0.4.tar.gz" > builder for > `/gnu/store/1y6b3ar37ff4q16714m77d56giv01cr5-xz-5.0.4.tar.gz.drv' failed = to > produce output path > `/gnu/store/0d7xnp3nji2mi4cw4jmd3mzbpija9a5a-xz-5.0.4.tar.gz' from tukaani.org/xz: Important Availability of .tar.gz and .tar.bz2 files of certain old XZ Utils versions have been temporary suspended because they are consume too much of the web hosting bandwidth quota. The files will be restored in November 2015, but further changes may be needed if the problem persist. Sorry for the inconvenience. It would be nice if developers of source-based distributions had their own mirrors from where the users' computers would download the source packages. It's not good if a package manager on every user's machine downloads the source package from the upstream site.=20 If we didn't need xz to unpack the tarball we could switch it. 5.0.4 is pretty old, is that for the bootstrap? --=20 Efraim Flashner =D7=90=D7=A4=D7=A8=D7=99=D7=9D = =D7=A4=D7=9C=D7=A9=D7=A0=D7=A8 GPG key =3D A28B F40C 3E55 1372 662D 14F7 41AA E7DC CA3D 8351 Confidentiality cannot be guaranteed on emails sent or received unencrypted --Sig_/rbV0waOflJ66wshTpBGC=ye Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJWMnF0AAoJEPTB05F+rO6TEtoP/187NB4HXpbvG2RG0T58GL++ bp1cPOo4hPazOx/8Xzb//rQYS3VkFWHqCSPLlTxX+uNEX8yXHUR7G4LUkx8UiO4o 2OEYS17y7uPhZ0zdNNuDwb6+qXgzBWnsKniMVgGG17j9jb1Q/GdcRESCzW20E9wv RRycWGMu6GPRkDsbBMuyhNvyxaVsKxJMR3ZaaZjNnEnIR4iraF9oIdvWVnhezGfp hSxK57QcXb9/lA8B6tMmpFEvPr4oLzd/5TMPpTF8Bz6SybSk0YTlDz2w0PvRUhML HsQ5KKjXGSnVBDsvMVPd1WquuVHLqb13EFljMBO+3CLLVX772+6lZBKSesV5msAa Soq/5B/UEi4jTXkKjIRFV6/zwH/kdp6kP3eYmeSG/9xvspEI8pCHmiL2Yt3lXi4I Di5s5+MD+GdN3xmxApxixunJECrSkUL1M1Y08bDE7pvg56YzD4eJRzwBJa4P1Yc1 isyUKJ995/fYxD0LvZmXN+LSHJTyFWGVIStEFByntvc3VcohiBz5tMuEv2HTIdZD CkgQ+KvfpvsOzhiYqVE/c1eDAHeDsExWtcsUcdMpp/z3S5t5dT/e8CTHFlQERgKM 5leVup/vUEZTLmjyyT1PGiUNbodLNN48VSOQHHmMd5teEmu4/YTmwbHJLvscJApe G9TaIn0XlqCd5YbwFZGA =6Kaw -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/rbV0waOflJ66wshTpBGC=ye-- From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Efraim Flashner Subject: bug#21784: cannot install icecat! Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2015 21:23:40 +0200 Message-ID: <20151029212340.41d47423@debian-netbook> References: <20151029212019.6f59107f@debian-netbook> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; boundary="Sig_/uL+D0dOZkh+W9f3TfR.IytV"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:48081) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zrsnu-0006lm-R6 for bug-guix@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Oct 2015 15:24:07 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zrsnq-0004bS-Kg for bug-guix@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Oct 2015 15:24:06 -0400 Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:53854) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zrsnq-0004bI-HG for bug-guix@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Oct 2015 15:24:02 -0400 Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Zrsnq-0007V7-8R for bug-guix@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Oct 2015 15:24:02 -0400 Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20151029212019.6f59107f@debian-netbook> List-Id: Bug reports for GNU Guix List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-guix-bounces+gcggb-bug-guix=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: bug-guix-bounces+gcggb-bug-guix=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: "-=}\\*/{=-" Cc: 21784@debbugs.gnu.org --Sig_/uL+D0dOZkh+W9f3TfR.IytV Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 29 Oct 2015 21:20:19 +0200 Efraim Flashner wrote: > On Thu, 29 Oct 2015 07:30:39 +0000 > "-=3D}\\*/{=3D-" wrote: >=20 > > starting download of > > `/gnu/store/0d7xnp3nji2mi4cw4jmd3mzbpija9a5a-xz-5.0.4.tar.gz' from ` > > http://tukaani.org/xz/xz-5.0.4.tar.gz'... > > ERROR: download failed "http://tukaani.org/xz/xz-5.0.4.tar.gz" 403 > > "Forbidden" > > failed to download > > "/gnu/store/0d7xnp3nji2mi4cw4jmd3mzbpija9a5a-xz-5.0.4.tar.gz" from " > > http://tukaani.org/xz/xz-5.0.4.tar.gz" > > builder for > > `/gnu/store/1y6b3ar37ff4q16714m77d56giv01cr5-xz-5.0.4.tar.gz.drv' faile= d to > > produce output path > > `/gnu/store/0d7xnp3nji2mi4cw4jmd3mzbpija9a5a-xz-5.0.4.tar.gz' =20 >=20 > from tukaani.org/xz: >=20 > Important >=20 > Availability of .tar.gz and .tar.bz2 files of certain old XZ Utils versio= ns > have been temporary suspended because they are consume too much of the web > hosting bandwidth quota. The files will be restored in November 2015, but > further changes may be needed if the problem persist. Sorry for the > inconvenience. >=20 > It would be nice if developers of source-based distributions had their own > mirrors from where the users' computers would download the source package= s. > It's not good if a package manager on every user's machine downloads the > source package from the upstream site.=20 >=20 > If we didn't need xz to unpack the tarball we could switch it. 5.0.4 is > pretty old, is that for the bootstrap? >=20 I spoke too soon, 5.0.4 is our current copy while 5.2.2 is upstream, and the 5.0.x branch is apparently now unmaintained. Unfortunately, I think it's fa= ir to say that at least half of the packages depend on xz, including the bootstrap, so updating will involve lots of rebuilds. --=20 Efraim Flashner =D7=90=D7=A4=D7=A8=D7=99=D7=9D = =D7=A4=D7=9C=D7=A9=D7=A0=D7=A8 GPG key =3D A28B F40C 3E55 1372 662D 14F7 41AA E7DC CA3D 8351 Confidentiality cannot be guaranteed on emails sent or received unencrypted --Sig_/uL+D0dOZkh+W9f3TfR.IytV Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJWMnI9AAoJEPTB05F+rO6Tl5cP/13Y8AeEgfuNQyC2FCnltbCl VkixqHRU0xXpZYAD/70ORqnqeD/x7dNCVEHXUfP6nuFWQXFItsH4Vcd80kGGe9V1 YIXn6+BEJ0FN7jn2EUWnngMZ/7EiCj5tkhpJAlFqJqJcPE1i5yFB3CMGQupJOngl zisbwHjgrS+V44ysRjI8jp+mK7o6f4SzDwXVEzTbOt2IX3a+3yOaNmxemqyzqpwj XK4W7+0LIqeQJecT5SqHAEsA2FlQ4AxTIbFkXpU4ztwypybofuJ48rBcmE9XW6Up f+mmHAWIsAeZabsZoz8GzykflRi/+Zvs3xWEmfvLRqAlRazFwYbclX+6FaFgFwLq WlpgNmjwEe2C7j2wmfaYBlupFQUgDAsrrNlRiUIfsLKQGnaFOrHb1CqU+Gq2mTE5 CTqw9b8LlPyxbuWFHF1uhEqbNT589kRQawTiVeLUQHtHmDwTkHbew22vSdPXhjZA SpueMMuVIJjMWvqOynXIgPG6vqnpqEeiWiV2Ys0AyR52Akx9dWeAWxS2DAva0mOR emaUdHSt/5c4n1ZnTXq5OqwsGSSd3CIMTpT1DS/ELde+kfwII3Cjo0YRvz2bCLsx wv0GkWOHidKmvAPhUOAcO6B//iux8qK3YAtNhEDHMcsoiaO0nSWvkidDJb3gCtRI tpNvj4hRvCmVdLhchik4 =vWDK -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/uL+D0dOZkh+W9f3TfR.IytV-- From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: "-=}\\*/{=-" Subject: bug#21784: cannot install icecat! Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2015 19:30:37 +0000 Message-ID: References: <20151029212019.6f59107f@debian-netbook> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11433130a532190523435902 Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:50160) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zrsvf-0007uI-RZ for bug-guix@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Oct 2015 15:32:09 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zrsvb-0006wh-I0 for bug-guix@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Oct 2015 15:32:07 -0400 Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:53866) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zrsvb-0006wc-El for bug-guix@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Oct 2015 15:32:03 -0400 Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Zrsva-0007kO-V8 for bug-guix@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Oct 2015 15:32:03 -0400 Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20151029212019.6f59107f@debian-netbook> List-Id: Bug reports for GNU Guix List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-guix-bounces+gcggb-bug-guix=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: bug-guix-bounces+gcggb-bug-guix=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Efraim Flashner Cc: 21784@debbugs.gnu.org --001a11433130a532190523435902 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hi... :) i'm just a gun fan... i use linux since 2000, debian. had a try with nixos, then i found guix. i' running it on top of jessie to use icecat as richard stallman suggests. i'm doing it for the kick's of it. i barely really understand what you say. i just want to use icecat and get acquainted with the new gnu system and integrate it well along with debian... for now. []r. On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 7:20 PM, Efraim Flashner wrote: > On Thu, 29 Oct 2015 07:30:39 +0000 > "-=3D}\\*/{=3D-" wrote: > > > starting download of > > `/gnu/store/0d7xnp3nji2mi4cw4jmd3mzbpija9a5a-xz-5.0.4.tar.gz' from ` > > http://tukaani.org/xz/xz-5.0.4.tar.gz'... > > ERROR: download failed "http://tukaani.org/xz/xz-5.0.4.tar.gz" 403 > > "Forbidden" > > failed to download > > "/gnu/store/0d7xnp3nji2mi4cw4jmd3mzbpija9a5a-xz-5.0.4.tar.gz" from " > > http://tukaani.org/xz/xz-5.0.4.tar.gz" > > builder for > > `/gnu/store/1y6b3ar37ff4q16714m77d56giv01cr5-xz-5.0.4.tar.gz.drv' faile= d > to > > produce output path > > `/gnu/store/0d7xnp3nji2mi4cw4jmd3mzbpija9a5a-xz-5.0.4.tar.gz' > > from tukaani.org/xz: > > Important > > Availability of .tar.gz and .tar.bz2 files of certain old XZ Utils versio= ns > have been temporary suspended because they are consume too much of the we= b > hosting bandwidth quota. The files will be restored in November 2015, but > further changes may be needed if the problem persist. Sorry for the > inconvenience. > > It would be nice if developers of source-based distributions had their ow= n > mirrors from where the users' computers would download the source package= s. > It's not good if a package manager on every user's machine downloads the > source package from the upstream site. > > If we didn't need xz to unpack the tarball we could switch it. 5.0.4 is > pretty old, is that for the bootstrap? > > -- > Efraim Flashner =D7=90=D7=A4=D7=A8=D7=99=D7= =9D =D7=A4=D7=9C=D7=A9=D7=A0=D7=A8 > GPG key =3D A28B F40C 3E55 1372 662D 14F7 41AA E7DC CA3D 8351 > Confidentiality cannot be guaranteed on emails sent or received unencrypt= ed > --001a11433130a532190523435902 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
hi... :)

i'm just a gun fan...
=

i use linux s= ince 2000, debian.
had a try with nixos, the= n i found guix.
i' running it on top of = jessie to use icecat as richard stallman suggests.

i'm doing it for the kick= 9;s of it.
i barely really understand what y= ou say.

= i just want to use icecat and get acquainted with the new gnu system and in= tegrate it well along with debian... for now.

[]r.

On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 7:20 PM, Efrai= m Flashner <efraim@flashner.co.il> wrote:
On Thu, 29 Oct 2015 07:30:39 +0000
"-=3D}\\*/{=3D-" <rui.d= amas@gmail.com> wrote:

> starting download of
> `/gnu/store/0d7xnp3nji2mi4cw4jmd3mzbpija9a5a-xz-5.0.4.tar.gz' from= `
> http://tukaani.org/xz/xz-5.0.4.tar.gz'... > ERROR: download failed "http://tukaani.org/xz/xz-5.0.= 4.tar.gz" 403
> "Forbidden"
> failed to download
> "/gnu/store/0d7xnp3nji2mi4cw4jmd3mzbpija9a5a-xz-5.0.4.tar.gz"= ; from "
> http://tukaani.org/xz/xz-5.0.4.tar.gz"
> builder for
> `/gnu/store/1y6b3ar37ff4q16714m77d56giv01cr5-xz-5.0.4.tar.gz.drv' = failed to
> produce output path
> `/gnu/store/0d7xnp3nji2mi4cw4jmd3mzbpija9a5a-xz-5.0.4.tar.gz'

from tukaani.org/xz:

Important

Availability of .tar.gz and .tar.bz2 files of certain old XZ Utils versions=
have been temporary suspended because they are consume too much of the web<= br> hosting bandwidth quota. The files will be restored in November 2015, but further changes may be needed if the problem persist. Sorry for the
inconvenience.

It would be nice if developers of source-based distributions had their own<= br> mirrors from where the users' computers would download the source packa= ges.
It's not good if a package manager on every user's machine download= s the
source package from the upstream site.

If we didn't need xz to unpack the tarball we could switch it. 5.0.4 is=
pretty old, is that for the bootstrap?

--
Efraim Flashner=C2=A0 =C2=A0<ef= raim@flashner.co.il>=C2=A0 =C2=A0=D7=90=D7=A4=D7=A8=D7=99=D7=9D =D7= =A4=D7=9C=D7=A9=D7=A0=D7=A8
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--001a11433130a532190523435902-- From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: "-=}\\*/{=-" Subject: bug#21784: cannot install icecat! Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2015 19:39:08 +0000 Message-ID: References: <20151029212019.6f59107f@debian-netbook> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11430b6a0f78b90523437845 Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:52983) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zrt3P-0000Z1-AE for bug-guix@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Oct 2015 15:40:08 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zrt3L-0000xq-Of for bug-guix@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Oct 2015 15:40:07 -0400 Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:53871) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zrt3L-0000xa-Js for bug-guix@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Oct 2015 15:40:03 -0400 Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Zrt3K-0007x5-Uu for bug-guix@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Oct 2015 15:40:03 -0400 Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-Message-ID: In-Reply-To: List-Id: Bug reports for GNU Guix List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-guix-bounces+gcggb-bug-guix=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: bug-guix-bounces+gcggb-bug-guix=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Efraim Flashner Cc: 21784 <21784@debbugs.gnu.org> --001a11430b6a0f78b90523437845 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable lulz: i was not expecting AT ALL that icecat, suggested publicly, the only package i needed (for now), the kick start, would fail to install... (lol: please tell murphy to leave the room)... when is fixed 'there' do i use "pull" or "package upgrade"? []r. On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 7:30 PM, -=3D}\*/{=3D- wrote: > hi... :) > > i'm just a gun fan... > > i use linux since 2000, debian. > had a try with nixos, then i found guix. > i' running it on top of jessie to use icecat as richard stallman suggests= . > > i'm doing it for the kick's of it. > i barely really understand what you say. > > i just want to use icecat and get acquainted with the new gnu system and > integrate it well along with debian... for now. > > []r. > > On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 7:20 PM, Efraim Flashner > wrote: > >> On Thu, 29 Oct 2015 07:30:39 +0000 >> "-=3D}\\*/{=3D-" wrote: >> >> > starting download of >> > `/gnu/store/0d7xnp3nji2mi4cw4jmd3mzbpija9a5a-xz-5.0.4.tar.gz' from ` >> > http://tukaani.org/xz/xz-5.0.4.tar.gz'... >> > ERROR: download failed "http://tukaani.org/xz/xz-5.0.4.tar.gz" 403 >> > "Forbidden" >> > failed to download >> > "/gnu/store/0d7xnp3nji2mi4cw4jmd3mzbpija9a5a-xz-5.0.4.tar.gz" from " >> > http://tukaani.org/xz/xz-5.0.4.tar.gz" >> > builder for >> > `/gnu/store/1y6b3ar37ff4q16714m77d56giv01cr5-xz-5.0.4.tar.gz.drv' >> failed to >> > produce output path >> > `/gnu/store/0d7xnp3nji2mi4cw4jmd3mzbpija9a5a-xz-5.0.4.tar.gz' >> >> from tukaani.org/xz: >> >> Important >> >> Availability of .tar.gz and .tar.bz2 files of certain old XZ Utils >> versions >> have been temporary suspended because they are consume too much of the w= eb >> hosting bandwidth quota. The files will be restored in November 2015, bu= t >> further changes may be needed if the problem persist. Sorry for the >> inconvenience. >> >> It would be nice if developers of source-based distributions had their o= wn >> mirrors from where the users' computers would download the source >> packages. >> It's not good if a package manager on every user's machine downloads the >> source package from the upstream site. >> >> If we didn't need xz to unpack the tarball we could switch it. 5.0.4 is >> pretty old, is that for the bootstrap? >> >> -- >> Efraim Flashner =D7=90=D7=A4=D7=A8=D7=99=D7= =9D =D7=A4=D7=9C=D7=A9=D7=A0=D7=A8 >> GPG key =3D A28B F40C 3E55 1372 662D 14F7 41AA E7DC CA3D 8351 >> Confidentiality cannot be guaranteed on emails sent or received >> unencrypted >> > > --001a11430b6a0f78b90523437845 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
lulz: i was not expecting AT ALL= that icecat, suggested publicly, the only package i needed (for now), the = kick start, would fail to install... (lol: please tell murphy to leave the = room)...

when is fixed 'there' do i use "pull" or "package u= pgrade"?

[]r.

On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 7:30 PM, -=3D}\*/{=3D- &= lt;rui.damas@gmail= .com> wrote:
hi... :)

i'm just a gun fan...

i use linux since 2000, deb= ian.
had a try with nixos, then i found guix= .
i' running it on top of jessie to use = icecat as richard stallman suggests.

i'm doing it for the kick's of it.
i barely really understand what you say.
<= div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:monospace,monospace;font-s= ize:small;color:#000000">
i just want to= use icecat and get acquainted with the new gnu system and integrate it wel= l along with debian... for now.

[]r.

On Thu, Oct = 29, 2015 at 7:20 PM, Efraim Flashner <efraim@flashner.co.il> wrote:
On Thu, 29 Oct 2015 07:30:39 = +0000
"-=3D}\\*/{=3D-" <rui.damas@gmail.com> wrote:

> starting download of
> `/gnu/store/0d7xnp3nji2mi4cw4jmd3mzbpija9a5a-xz-5.0.4.tar.gz' from= `
> http://tukaani.org/xz/xz-5.0.4.tar.gz'... > ERROR: download failed "http://tukaani.org/xz/xz-5.0.= 4.tar.gz" 403
> "Forbidden"
> failed to download
> "/gnu/store/0d7xnp3nji2mi4cw4jmd3mzbpija9a5a-xz-5.0.4.tar.gz"= ; from "
> http://tukaani.org/xz/xz-5.0.4.tar.gz"
> builder for
> `/gnu/store/1y6b3ar37ff4q16714m77d56giv01cr5-xz-5.0.4.tar.gz.drv' = failed to
> produce output path
> `/gnu/store/0d7xnp3nji2mi4cw4jmd3mzbpija9a5a-xz-5.0.4.tar.gz'

from tukaani.org/xz:

Important

Availability of .tar.gz and .tar.bz2 files of certain old XZ Utils versions=
have been temporary suspended because they are consume too much of the web<= br> hosting bandwidth quota. The files will be restored in November 2015, but further changes may be needed if the problem persist. Sorry for the
inconvenience.

It would be nice if developers of source-based distributions had their own<= br> mirrors from where the users' computers would download the source packa= ges.
It's not good if a package manager on every user's machine download= s the
source package from the upstream site.

If we didn't need xz to unpack the tarball we could switch it. 5.0.4 is=
pretty old, is that for the bootstrap?

--
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--001a11430b6a0f78b90523437845-- From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Efraim Flashner Subject: bug#21784: cannot install icecat! Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2015 21:51:02 +0200 Message-ID: <20151029215102.384751ae@debian-netbook> References: <20151029212019.6f59107f@debian-netbook> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; boundary="Sig_/NBuK8/zvzU7_eVfAsoxYBpW"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:56494) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZrtEz-0002Pr-JC for bug-guix@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Oct 2015 15:52:06 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZrtEw-0004TU-D0 for bug-guix@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Oct 2015 15:52:05 -0400 Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:53903) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZrtEw-0004TQ-98 for bug-guix@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Oct 2015 15:52:02 -0400 Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZrtEw-0008Fo-1n for bug-guix@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Oct 2015 15:52:02 -0400 Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-Message-ID: In-Reply-To: List-Id: Bug reports for GNU Guix List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-guix-bounces+gcggb-bug-guix=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: bug-guix-bounces+gcggb-bug-guix=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: "-=}\\*/{=-" Cc: 21784@debbugs.gnu.org --Sig_/NBuK8/zvzU7_eVfAsoxYBpW Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 29 Oct 2015 19:30:37 +0000 "-=3D}\\*/{=3D-" wrote: > hi... :) > > i'm just a gun fan... I think most of us are GNU fans too, welcome! =20 > i use linux since 2000, debian. > had a try with nixos, then i found guix. > i' running it on top of jessie to use icecat as richard stallman suggests. >=20 > i'm doing it for the kick's of it. > i barely really understand what you say. Sorry, I that really wasn't my intention. I saw the version was old and my first thought was to update it to a later version. > i just want to use icecat and get acquainted with the new gnu system and > integrate it well along with debian... for now. >=20 > []r. >=20 It turns out that hydra, the automated build server for guix, has a copy of xz that you can download if you authorize hydra to provide substitutions. With a copy of hydra.gnu.org.pub, the command is `sudo guix archive --authorize hydra.gnu.org.pub`. After that, instead of building everything locally, your computer will first check to see if hydra has already built a package and you can just download it. Feel free to ask anything and we'll try to help out :) --Sig_/NBuK8/zvzU7_eVfAsoxYBpW Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJWMnimAAoJEPTB05F+rO6TJCIQAJZEzH2g/2iH1NSq4y9dkKpU TxtVmaf9J6gUo5MhcmOtdzhmRZKPAMKm/v1mHPmtOGaWTGvx5z+iX7mWD6dKqWNj neeWBN5wTOoRJcTNO6rsSod7RodGKJu2iqcbCDpkpjFfpHr8T0Epusst9wF0Rg0W sqtOsP6NxYcxuk7GAomYZI6FQqlgXEl3QYKfs7FqY/2u8Ngg8dVdkpdlWUjpP7Ra 9AIvhUDlPRgOMXyixmXR2EgXHyzbFeD/tNV8VSy1WDCfcINMfCy/71lN+txs8aps AFhH+Y7FlGDiTfXaU5gAh1dgF0bKIzQeJRdOXwHK5j00WNKF7EoVlj5pw5k+D5Hg +PfbwMZZjqCWcgWw+72dHCtGdPMlQ1mM2rIkFZCloCYi7k3XYA0b9WWTZS/tf5L3 /6Hc3rS+jZKfa763U35ZUDGNlzcdROLb+tf6HnO2xzeaImnRFKh58i2epqYbSCOt nQHNXZK4s0ZtdhrsUi1aT4m1kTCswKHJ7v1W7iGZqfrKiQa4MFtQhyVTOMzTaWsc UdE7iJWSH0ewT1lj9C4Xy+HcZc58GqurU2r1qHTEu1Le/YYusaBtSqms6AcPEsYA P3chlnp+L5P23icmLOUkHqPGIk3nTutbNJgTsyzpP5K4JUyIhlFOoSLbDqbJkpT5 7daA9J7ud9ouDyfa9t/a =FyVf -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/NBuK8/zvzU7_eVfAsoxYBpW-- From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic =?UTF-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?=) Subject: bug#21784: cannot install icecat! Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2015 21:27:12 +0100 Message-ID: <87r3kd8lpb.fsf@gnu.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:36826) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zrtnr-0002L4-Ji for bug-guix@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Oct 2015 16:28:08 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zrtnm-0004ui-Qc for bug-guix@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Oct 2015 16:28:07 -0400 Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:53921) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zrtnm-0004uO-Nh for bug-guix@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Oct 2015 16:28:02 -0400 Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Zrtnm-0000hz-EQ for bug-guix@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Oct 2015 16:28:02 -0400 Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-Message-ID: In-Reply-To: (rui.damas@gmail.com's message of "Thu, 29 Oct 2015 07:30:39 +0000") List-Id: Bug reports for GNU Guix List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-guix-bounces+gcggb-bug-guix=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: bug-guix-bounces+gcggb-bug-guix=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: "-=}\\*/{=-" Cc: 21784@debbugs.gnu.org, lasse.collin@tukaani.org "-=3D}\*/{=3D-" skribis: > ERROR: download failed "http://tukaani.org/xz/xz-5.0.4.tar.gz" 403 > "Forbidden" This seems to be an issue at tukaani.org since this URL is still listed at . Lasse: Could it be that the permissions for old tarballs were inadvertently changed? -=3D}\*/{=3D-: in the meantime, you can work around it by enabling substitutes, since hydra.gnu.org has it in cache: http://www.gnu.org/software/guix/manual/html_node/Substitutes.html Thanks, Ludo=E2=80=99. From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: "-=}\\*/{=-" Subject: bug#21784: cannot install icecat! Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2015 23:07:53 +0000 Message-ID: References: <87r3kd8lpb.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11433130a3605e0523466229 Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:59929) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZrwJi-0000rZ-QL for bug-guix@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Oct 2015 19:09:11 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZrwJe-0008CN-Ak for bug-guix@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Oct 2015 19:09:10 -0400 Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:54165) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZrwJe-0008C5-73 for bug-guix@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Oct 2015 19:09:06 -0400 Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZrwJa-00085G-AL for bug-guix@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Oct 2015 19:09:02 -0400 Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <87r3kd8lpb.fsf@gnu.org> List-Id: Bug reports for GNU Guix List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-guix-bounces+gcggb-bug-guix=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: bug-guix-bounces+gcggb-bug-guix=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Ludovic =?UTF-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?= Cc: 21784 <21784@debbugs.gnu.org>, lasse.collin@tukaani.org --001a11433130a3605e0523466229 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable # @ ~root ... .guix-profile/bin/guix archive --authorize < .guix-profile/share/guix/hydra.gnu.org.pub .guix-profile/bin/guix -u # ... did nothing .guix-profile/bin/guix pull --verbose # compiled lots of files .guix-profile/bin/guix -u # ... did lots of stuff, but no icecat .guix-profile/bin/guix package -i icecat # ... :) nice... how do i clean possible rolbacks? [ty all] r. On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 8:27 PM, Ludovic Court=C3=A8s wrote: > "-=3D}\*/{=3D-" skribis: > > > ERROR: download failed "http://tukaani.org/xz/xz-5.0.4.tar.gz" 403 > > "Forbidden" > > This seems to be an issue at tukaani.org since this URL is still listed > at . > > Lasse: Could it be that the permissions for old tarballs were > inadvertently changed? > > -=3D}\*/{=3D-: in the meantime, you can work around it by enabling > substitutes, since hydra.gnu.org has it in cache: > > http://www.gnu.org/software/guix/manual/html_node/Substitutes.html > > Thanks, > Ludo=E2=80=99. > --001a11433130a3605e0523466229 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
# @ ~root ...

.guix-profile/bin/guix archive -= -authorize < .guix-profile/share/guix/hydra.gnu.org.pub
=

.guix-profile/bin/gu= ix -u
# ... did nothing

<= font color=3D"#000000" face=3D"monospace, monospace">.guix-profile/bin/guix= pull --verbose
# compiled lots of files=

.guix-profile/bin/guix -u
# = ... did lots of stuff, but no icecat

<= div class=3D"gmail_default">
.guix-profile/bin/guix package -i iceca= t
# ... :)

nice... how do i clean possible rolbacks?

[ty all] r.


On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 8= :27 PM, Ludovic Court=C3=A8s <ludo@gnu.org> wrote:
"-=3D}\*/{=3D-" <rui.damas@gmail.com> skribis:

> ERROR: download failed "http://tukaani.org/xz/xz-5.0.= 4.tar.gz" 403
> "Forbidden"

This seems to be an issue at tukaani.org since this URL is still listed=
at <http://tukaani.org/xz/old.html>.

Lasse: Could it be that the permissions for old tarballs were
inadvertently changed?

-=3D}\*/{=3D-: in the meantime, you can work around it by enabling
substitutes, since hydra.gnu.org has it in cache:

=C2=A0 http://www.gnu.org/software= /guix/manual/html_node/Substitutes.html

Thanks,
Ludo=E2=80=99.

--001a11433130a3605e0523466229-- From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: "-=}\\*/{=-" Subject: bug#21784: cannot install icecat! Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2015 23:20:43 +0000 Message-ID: References: <87r3kd8lpb.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a1142d8e28876ff05234690c7 Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:35829) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZrwWE-0003B1-KL for bug-guix@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Oct 2015 19:22:08 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZrwWA-0003Sq-MF for bug-guix@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Oct 2015 19:22:06 -0400 Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:54193) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZrwWA-0003Sk-Ic for bug-guix@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Oct 2015 19:22:02 -0400 Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZrwWA-0008PV-8o for bug-guix@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Oct 2015 19:22:02 -0400 Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-Message-ID: In-Reply-To: List-Id: Bug reports for GNU Guix List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-guix-bounces+gcggb-bug-guix=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: bug-guix-bounces+gcggb-bug-guix=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Ludovic =?UTF-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?= Cc: 21784 <21784@debbugs.gnu.org>, "lasse.collin" --001a1142d8e28876ff05234690c7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable guix gc --optimize # 75.02 MiB freed by hard-linking 10086 files guix gc # ... deleted some files :) [ty]r. On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 11:07 PM, -=3D}\*/{=3D- wrote= : > # @ ~root ... > > .guix-profile/bin/guix archive --authorize < > .guix-profile/share/guix/hydra.gnu.org.pub > > .guix-profile/bin/guix -u > # ... did nothing > > .guix-profile/bin/guix pull --verbose > # compiled lots of files > > .guix-profile/bin/guix -u > # ... did lots of stuff, but no icecat > > .guix-profile/bin/guix package -i icecat > # ... :) > > nice... how do i clean possible rolbacks? > > [ty all] r. > > > On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 8:27 PM, Ludovic Court=C3=A8s wrot= e: > >> "-=3D}\*/{=3D-" skribis: >> >> > ERROR: download failed "http://tukaani.org/xz/xz-5.0.4.tar.gz" 403 >> > "Forbidden" >> >> This seems to be an issue at tukaani.org since this URL is still listed >> at . >> >> Lasse: Could it be that the permissions for old tarballs were >> inadvertently changed? >> >> -=3D}\*/{=3D-: in the meantime, you can work around it by enabling >> substitutes, since hydra.gnu.org has it in cache: >> >> http://www.gnu.org/software/guix/manual/html_node/Substitutes.html >> >> Thanks, >> Ludo=E2=80=99. >> > > --001a1142d8e28876ff05234690c7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
= guix gc --optimize=C2=A0
# 75.02 MiB free= d by hard-linking 10086 files

<= div class=3D"gmail_default">guix gc
<= div class=3D"gmail_default"># ... deleted some files :)

[ty]r.

On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 11:07 PM= , -=3D}\*/{=3D- <rui.damas@gmail.com> wrote:
# @ ~root ...

.guix-profile/bin/guix archive --authorize &l= t; .guix-profile/share/guix/hydra.gnu.org.pub

<= /font>
.guix-profile/bin/guix -u
# ...= did nothing

.guix-profile/bin= /guix pull --verbose
# compiled lots of files

.guix-= profile/bin/guix -u
# ... did lots of stuff, but no= icecat

<= div class=3D"gmail_default">.guix-profile/bin/guix package -i icecat
# = ... :)

nice... how= do i clean possible rolbacks?

[ty all] r.


On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 8:27 PM, Ludovic Court=C3=A8s <ludo@g= nu.org> wrote:
"-=3D}\= */{=3D-" <= rui.damas@gmail.com> skribis:

> ERROR: download failed "http://tukaani.org/xz/xz-5.0.= 4.tar.gz" 403
> "Forbidden"

This seems to be an issue at tukaani.org since this URL is still listed=
at <http://tukaani.org/xz/old.html>.

Lasse: Could it be that the permissions for old tarballs were
inadvertently changed?

-=3D}\*/{=3D-: in the meantime, you can work around it by enabling
substitutes, since hydra.gnu.org has it in cache:

=C2=A0 http://www.gnu.org/software= /guix/manual/html_node/Substitutes.html

Thanks,
Ludo=E2=80=99.


--001a1142d8e28876ff05234690c7-- From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: "-=}\\*/{=-" Subject: bug#21784: cannot install icecat! Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2015 07:53:45 +0000 Message-ID: References: <87r3kd8lpb.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11430b6a46737805234dbbeb Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:46665) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zs4Wi-0007H4-4x for bug-guix@gnu.org; Fri, 30 Oct 2015 03:55:09 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zs4Wd-0008NM-BZ for bug-guix@gnu.org; Fri, 30 Oct 2015 03:55:07 -0400 Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:54513) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zs4Wd-0008NI-79 for bug-guix@gnu.org; Fri, 30 Oct 2015 03:55:03 -0400 Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Zs4Wd-0004U3-4G for bug-guix@gnu.org; Fri, 30 Oct 2015 03:55:03 -0400 Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-Message-ID: In-Reply-To: List-Id: Bug reports for GNU Guix List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-guix-bounces+gcggb-bug-guix=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: bug-guix-bounces+gcggb-bug-guix=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Ludovic =?UTF-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?= Cc: 21784 <21784@debbugs.gnu.org>, "lasse.collin" --001a11430b6a46737805234dbbeb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable rehi... just have one more little problem... in the footnote at the end of this page: http://www.gnu.org/soft ware/guix/manual/html_node/Build-Environment-Setup.html "If your machine uses the systemd init system, dropping the prefix/lib/systemd/system/guix-daemon.service file in /etc/systemd/system will ensure that guix-daemon is automatically started." i did this: ln -s /root/.guix-profile/lib/systemd/system/guix-daemon.service /etc/systemd/ ... but it does no start at boot... i'am able to start/stop it with: systemctl start guix-daemon systemctl stop guix-daemon ... but not enable it... :( systemctl enable guix-daemon says: "Failed to execute operation: No such file or directory" i'm still used to the old init.d scheme and not acquainted with the new one... how can i easily solve this? []r. On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 11:20 PM, -=3D}\*/{=3D- wrote= : > guix gc --optimize > # 75.02 MiB freed by hard-linking 10086 files > > guix gc > # ... deleted some files :) > > [ty]r. > > On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 11:07 PM, -=3D}\*/{=3D- wro= te: > >> # @ ~root ... >> >> .guix-profile/bin/guix archive --authorize < >> .guix-profile/share/guix/hydra.gnu.org.pub >> >> .guix-profile/bin/guix -u >> # ... did nothing >> >> .guix-profile/bin/guix pull --verbose >> # compiled lots of files >> >> .guix-profile/bin/guix -u >> # ... did lots of stuff, but no icecat >> >> .guix-profile/bin/guix package -i icecat >> # ... :) >> >> nice... how do i clean possible rolbacks? >> >> [ty all] r. >> >> >> On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 8:27 PM, Ludovic Court=C3=A8s wro= te: >> >>> "-=3D}\*/{=3D-" skribis: >>> >>> > ERROR: download failed "http://tukaani.org/xz/xz-5.0.4.tar.gz" 403 >>> > "Forbidden" >>> >>> This seems to be an issue at tukaani.org since this URL is still listed >>> at . >>> >>> Lasse: Could it be that the permissions for old tarballs were >>> inadvertently changed? >>> >>> -=3D}\*/{=3D-: in the meantime, you can work around it by enabling >>> substitutes, since hydra.gnu.org has it in cache: >>> >>> http://www.gnu.org/software/guix/manual/html_node/Substitutes.html >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Ludo=E2=80=99. >>> >> >> > --001a11430b6a46737805234dbbeb Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
rehi...

just have one more litt= le problem...

in the footnote at the end of this page:
http://www.gnu.org/software/guix/man= ual/html_node/Build-Environment-Setup.html

"If your machine uses th= e systemd init system, dropping the prefix/lib/systemd/system/guix-daemon.s= ervice file in /etc/systemd/system will ensure that guix-daemon is automati= cally started."

i did this:
=C2=A0 ln -s /r= oot/.guix-profile/lib/systemd/system/guix-daemon.service=C2=A0/etc/systemd/
=

... but it does no s= tart at boot...

i'am able to start/stop it with:
=C2=A0 systemctl start guix-daemon
=C2=A0 systemctl = stop guix-daemon

... but not enable i= t... :(

=C2=A0 systemctl enable guix-daemon

says: = "Failed to execute operation: No such file or directory"

i'm st= ill used to the old init.d scheme and not acquainted with the new one... ho= w can i easily solve this?

[]r.
=

On Thu, Oct= 29, 2015 at 11:20 PM, -=3D}\*/{=3D- <rui.damas@gmail.com>= wrote:
guix gc --optimize=C2=A0
# 75.02 MiB freed by hard-linking 10086 files

guix = gc
# ...= deleted some files :)

[ty]r.

On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 1= 1:07 PM, -=3D}\*/{=3D- <rui.damas@gmail.com> wrote:
<= font color=3D"#000000" face=3D"monospace, monospace"># @ ~root ...

.guix-profile/bin/guix archive --autho= rize < .guix-profile/share/guix/hydra.gnu.org.pub
.guix-profile/bin/guix -u

.guix-prof= ile/bin/guix pull --verbose
# compiled lots of file= s

.guix-profile/bin/guix -u
# ... did lots of stuff,= but no icecat

.guix-profile/bin/guix package -i icecat
# ... :)

nice.= .. how do i clean possible rolbacks?

<= div class=3D"gmail_default">[ty all] r.


On Thu= , Oct 29, 2015 at 8:27 PM, Ludovic Court=C3=A8s <ludo@gnu.org> wr= ote:
"-=3D}\*/{=3D-" <rui.damas@gmail.com&= gt; skribis:

> ERROR: download failed "http://tukaani.org/xz/xz-5.0.= 4.tar.gz" 403
> "Forbidden"

This seems to be an issue at tukaani.org since this URL is still listed=
at <http://tukaani.org/xz/old.html>.

Lasse: Could it be that the permissions for old tarballs were
inadvertently changed?

-=3D}\*/{=3D-: in the meantime, you can work around it by enabling
substitutes, since hydra.gnu.org has it in cache:

=C2=A0 http://www.gnu.org/software= /guix/manual/html_node/Substitutes.html

Thanks,
Ludo=E2=80=99.



--001a11430b6a46737805234dbbeb-- From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Efraim Flashner Subject: bug#21784: cannot install icecat! Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2015 10:02:13 +0200 Message-ID: <20151030100213.100389af@debian-netbook> References: <87r3kd8lpb.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; boundary="Sig_/FsKyvWrR4pBVgx6NZZM2Cvw"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:48612) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zs4eR-0008OZ-7t for bug-guix@gnu.org; Fri, 30 Oct 2015 04:03:08 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zs4eM-0002dE-2E for bug-guix@gnu.org; Fri, 30 Oct 2015 04:03:07 -0400 Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:54524) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zs4eL-0002d8-Tp for bug-guix@gnu.org; Fri, 30 Oct 2015 04:03:01 -0400 Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Zs4eL-0004hW-Jd for bug-guix@gnu.org; Fri, 30 Oct 2015 04:03:01 -0400 Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-Message-ID: In-Reply-To: List-Id: Bug reports for GNU Guix List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-guix-bounces+gcggb-bug-guix=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: bug-guix-bounces+gcggb-bug-guix=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: "-=}\\*/{=-" Cc: 21784 <21784@debbugs.gnu.org> --Sig_/FsKyvWrR4pBVgx6NZZM2Cvw Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, 30 Oct 2015 07:53:45 +0000 "-=3D}\\*/{=3D-" wrote: > re hi... >=20 > just have one more little problem... >=20 > in the footnote at the end of this page: > http://www.gnu.org/soft > ware/guix/manual/html_node/Build-Environment-Setup.html >=20 > "If your machine uses the systemd init system, dropping the > prefix/lib/systemd/system/guix-daemon.service file in /etc/systemd/system > will ensure that guix-daemon is automatically started." >=20 > i did this: > ln -s /root/.guix-profile/lib/systemd/system/guix-daemon.service > /etc/systemd/ you're missing the last system, the symlink goes in /etc/systemd/system/ > ... but it does no start at boot... >=20 > i'am able to start/stop it with: >=20 > systemctl start guix-daemon > systemctl stop guix-daemon >=20 > ... but not enable it... :( >=20 > systemctl enable guix-daemon >=20 > says: "Failed to execute operation: No such file or directory" >=20 > i'm still used to the old init.d scheme and not acquainted with the new > one... how can i easily solve this? Delete the old symlink and make a new one :) --=20 Efraim Flashner =D7=90=D7=A4=D7=A8=D7=99=D7=9D = =D7=A4=D7=9C=D7=A9=D7=A0=D7=A8 GPG key =3D A28B F40C 3E55 1372 662D 14F7 41AA E7DC CA3D 8351 Confidentiality cannot be guaranteed on emails sent or received unencrypted --Sig_/FsKyvWrR4pBVgx6NZZM2Cvw Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJWMyQFAAoJEPTB05F+rO6TDxEP/AppjDo3sgxX8XkO+dWmOsm/ pciLGtMOsqs/hTWo3kvI3/qebsp32ZOpy5qAav3xOZvTC+78sq9BTb/0BeVkocn+ MpEVz+9T5SbUAbhnifdNWr0qDrA1LCcy10wrcTOWxGioGppATc+A1vROojo+iwss nSEo5DsX4JDetMhYpk51ZlVLYcnRUQUk5LIqiS+mmvmEqGtZmsAgGXKsZ09I/DNP pDIFPyGRJEUqiOVQabrmFwhBVA/7tIZuNuUquOk93V65uX8vYIa+riaoUoCx1An4 MJUbcYxdo6KR6qIS6RIQWWG8FT3oTPdhXgmSisAmJcy8k47Z+Kh1T9QI8NONWMdI IX/tw9I6lvC6amLxCiqtZG3u37fvC7eHjqQeW8CWyOpbtj8FASGnjES8HSu/kC7+ YaCwIEyY32qtrKV2omVDOFeHHAYBxABk2oRT0C3XckuwSeHPvxcqGF7OO5h9NKDy 1rtBuXZTKefgoN7y+VxCLs4uRVH6OXw0mOYQ9YGW2xqUUGkpx24vkVYjazBt2Y9J 7AKVXePPd5TSDb5qVz6l7KPJygvBKEfjs/OmytIsBm0swJxA5fCgN/QV25JQlVeH sV8qMqsB+bE14F9hNPFm7RR/jtnFIakYcOX0gOaZ9SmHXxI6HRFTe5Kx4nLuN+Sc YjHHGWExp8kfRF9igqnN =Sg9L -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/FsKyvWrR4pBVgx6NZZM2Cvw-- From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: "-=}\\*/{=-" Subject: bug#21784: cannot install icecat! Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2015 08:14:14 +0000 Message-ID: References: <87r3kd8lpb.fsf@gnu.org> <20151030100213.100389af@debian-netbook> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a1143313086cda705234e04c1 Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:51320) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zs4q2-0004NP-8P for bug-guix@gnu.org; Fri, 30 Oct 2015 04:15:07 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zs4pz-0005pu-22 for bug-guix@gnu.org; Fri, 30 Oct 2015 04:15:06 -0400 Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:54534) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zs4py-0005pp-VM for bug-guix@gnu.org; Fri, 30 Oct 2015 04:15:02 -0400 Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Zs4py-0004zI-Lo for bug-guix@gnu.org; Fri, 30 Oct 2015 04:15:02 -0400 Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20151030100213.100389af@debian-netbook> List-Id: Bug reports for GNU Guix List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-guix-bounces+gcggb-bug-guix=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: bug-guix-bounces+gcggb-bug-guix=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Efraim Flashner Cc: 21784 <21784@debbugs.gnu.org> --001a1143313086cda705234e04c1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ... sorry, my bad at writing last email... i do have the symlink at /etc/systemd/system/ ... otherwise would not work for start/stop (i presume)... only `enable' does not. ... so it presists. []r. On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 8:02 AM, Efraim Flashner wrote: > On Fri, 30 Oct 2015 07:53:45 +0000 > "-=3D}\\*/{=3D-" wrote: > > > re hi... > > > > just have one more little problem... > > > > in the footnote at the end of this page: > > http://www.gnu.org/soft > > ware/guix/manual/html_node/Build-Environment-Setup.html > > > > "If your machine uses the systemd init system, dropping the > > prefix/lib/systemd/system/guix-daemon.service file in /etc/systemd/syst= em > > will ensure that guix-daemon is automatically started." > > > > i did this: > > ln -s /root/.guix-profile/lib/systemd/system/guix-daemon.service > > /etc/systemd/ > > you're missing the last system, the symlink goes in /etc/systemd/system/ > > > ... but it does no start at boot... > > > > i'am able to start/stop it with: > > > > systemctl start guix-daemon > > systemctl stop guix-daemon > > > > ... but not enable it... :( > > > > systemctl enable guix-daemon > > > > says: "Failed to execute operation: No such file or directory" > > > > i'm still used to the old init.d scheme and not acquainted with the new > > one... how can i easily solve this? > > Delete the old symlink and make a new one :) > > -- > Efraim Flashner =D7=90=D7=A4=D7=A8=D7=99=D7= =9D =D7=A4=D7=9C=D7=A9=D7=A0=D7=A8 > GPG key =3D A28B F40C 3E55 1372 662D 14F7 41AA E7DC CA3D 8351 > Confidentiality cannot be guaranteed on emails sent or received unencrypt= ed > --001a1143313086cda705234e04c1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
... sorry, my bad at writing = last email... i do have the symlink at=C2=A0/etc/systemd/system/ ... otherw= ise would not work for start/stop (i presume)... only `enable' does not= .

= ... so it presists.

[]r.

On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 8:02 AM, Efraim Flashner <ef= raim@flashner.co.il> wrote:
On Fri, 30 Oct 2015 07:53:45 +0000
"-=3D}\\*/{=3D-" <rui.damas@gmail.com> wrote:

> re hi...
>
> just have one more little problem...
>
> in the footnote at the end of this page:
> http://www.gnu.org/soft
> ware/guix/manual/html_node/Build-Environment-Setup.html
>
> "If your machine uses the systemd init system, dropping the
> prefix/lib/systemd/system/guix-daemon.service file in /etc/systemd/sys= tem
> will ensure that guix-daemon is automatically started."
>
> i did this:
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0ln -s /root/.guix-profile/lib/systemd/system/guix-daemon.s= ervice
> /etc/systemd/

you're missing the last system, the symlink goes in /etc/systemd= /system/

> ... but it does no start at boot...
>
> i'am able to start/stop it with:
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0systemctl start guix-daemon
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0systemctl stop guix-daemon
>
> ... but not enable it... :(
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0systemctl enable guix-daemon
>
> says: "Failed to execute operation: No such file or directory&quo= t;
>
> i'm still used to the old init.d scheme and not acquainted with th= e new
> one... how can i easily solve this?

Delete the old symlink and make a new one :)

--
Efraim Flashner=C2=A0 =C2=A0<ef= raim@flashner.co.il>=C2=A0 =C2=A0=D7=90=D7=A4=D7=A8=D7=99=D7=9D =D7= =A4=D7=9C=D7=A9=D7=A0=D7=A8
GPG key =3D A28B F40C 3E55 1372 662D=C2=A0 14F7 41AA E7DC CA3D 8351
Confidentiality cannot be guaranteed on emails sent or received unencrypted=

--001a1143313086cda705234e04c1-- From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: "-=}\\*/{=-" Subject: bug#21784: cannot install icecat! Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2015 15:45:24 +0000 Message-ID: References: <87r3kd8lpb.fsf@gnu.org> <20151030100213.100389af@debian-netbook> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a1143ac6212858605235452b0 Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:55452) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZsBtR-0004ac-Ek for bug-guix@gnu.org; Fri, 30 Oct 2015 11:47:06 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZsBtO-0006PM-3p for bug-guix@gnu.org; Fri, 30 Oct 2015 11:47:05 -0400 Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:55654) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZsBtN-0006PI-VO for bug-guix@gnu.org; Fri, 30 Oct 2015 11:47:02 -0400 Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZsBtN-0000Xs-L9 for bug-guix@gnu.org; Fri, 30 Oct 2015 11:47:01 -0400 Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-Message-ID: In-Reply-To: List-Id: Bug reports for GNU Guix List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-guix-bounces+gcggb-bug-guix=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: bug-guix-bounces+gcggb-bug-guix=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Efraim Flashner Cc: 21784 <21784@debbugs.gnu.org> --001a1143ac6212858605235452b0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ... and solved :D made a copy instead of link... https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/systemd/+bug/1419318 [ty all]r. On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 8:14 AM, -=3D}\*/{=3D- wrote: > ... sorry, my bad at writing last email... i do have the symlink > at /etc/systemd/system/ ... otherwise would not work for start/stop (i > presume)... only `enable' does not. > > ... so it presists. > > []r. > > On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 8:02 AM, Efraim Flashner > wrote: > >> On Fri, 30 Oct 2015 07:53:45 +0000 >> "-=3D}\\*/{=3D-" wrote: >> >> > re hi... >> > >> > just have one more little problem... >> > >> > in the footnote at the end of this page: >> > http://www.gnu.org/soft >> > ware/guix/manual/html_node/Build-Environment-Setup.html >> > >> > "If your machine uses the systemd init system, dropping the >> > prefix/lib/systemd/system/guix-daemon.service file in >> /etc/systemd/system >> > will ensure that guix-daemon is automatically started." >> > >> > i did this: >> > ln -s /root/.guix-profile/lib/systemd/system/guix-daemon.service >> > /etc/systemd/ >> >> you're missing the last system, the symlink goes in /etc/systemd/system/ >> >> > ... but it does no start at boot... >> > >> > i'am able to start/stop it with: >> > >> > systemctl start guix-daemon >> > systemctl stop guix-daemon >> > >> > ... but not enable it... :( >> > >> > systemctl enable guix-daemon >> > >> > says: "Failed to execute operation: No such file or directory" >> > >> > i'm still used to the old init.d scheme and not acquainted with the ne= w >> > one... how can i easily solve this? >> >> Delete the old symlink and make a new one :) >> >> -- >> Efraim Flashner =D7=90=D7=A4=D7=A8=D7=99=D7= =9D =D7=A4=D7=9C=D7=A9=D7=A0=D7=A8 >> GPG key =3D A28B F40C 3E55 1372 662D 14F7 41AA E7DC CA3D 8351 >> Confidentiality cannot be guaranteed on emails sent or received >> unencrypted >> > > --001a1143ac6212858605235452b0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
... and solved :D

made a copy instead of link..= .

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/systemd/+bug/1419318

[ty all]r.<= /font>

On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 8:14 AM, -=3D}\*/{=3D- <rui.damas@gmail.com= > wrote:
... sorry, my bad at writing last email... i do hav= e the symlink at=C2=A0/etc/systemd/system/ ... otherwise would not work for= start/stop (i presume)... only `enable' does not.

... so it presists.

[]r.=

On Fr= i, Oct 30, 2015 at 8:02 AM, Efraim Flashner <efraim@flashner.co.il> wrote:
On Fri, 30 Oct 2015 = 07:53:45 +0000
"-=3D}\\*/{=3D-" <rui.damas@gmail.com> wrote:

> re hi...
>
> just have one more little problem...
>
> in the footnote at the end of this page:
> http://www.gnu.org/soft
> ware/guix/manual/html_node/Build-Environment-Setup.html
>
> "If your machine uses the systemd init system, dropping the
> prefix/lib/systemd/system/guix-daemon.service file in /etc/systemd/sys= tem
> will ensure that guix-daemon is automatically started."
>
> i did this:
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0ln -s /root/.guix-profile/lib/systemd/system/guix-daemon.s= ervice
> /etc/systemd/

you're missing the last system, the symlink goes in /etc/systemd= /system/

> ... but it does no start at boot...
>
> i'am able to start/stop it with:
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0systemctl start guix-daemon
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0systemctl stop guix-daemon
>
> ... but not enable it... :(
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0systemctl enable guix-daemon
>
> says: "Failed to execute operation: No such file or directory&quo= t;
>
> i'm still used to the old init.d scheme and not acquainted with th= e new
> one... how can i easily solve this?

Delete the old symlink and make a new one :)<= font color=3D"#888888">

--
Efraim Flashner=C2=A0 =C2=A0<efraim@flashner.co.il>=C2=A0 =C2=A0=D7=90=D7=A4=D7= =A8=D7=99=D7=9D =D7=A4=D7=9C=D7=A9=D7=A0=D7=A8
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--001a1143ac6212858605235452b0-- From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic =?UTF-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?=) Subject: bug#21784: Alternate xz-5.0.4.tar.gz URL Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2015 18:06:26 +0100 Message-ID: <87vb9ocmlp.fsf_-_@gnu.org> References: <20151029212019.6f59107f@debian-netbook> <20151029215102.384751ae@debian-netbook> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:50703) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZsD8s-0003ca-4I for bug-guix@gnu.org; Fri, 30 Oct 2015 13:07:06 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZsD8o-0004d8-TH for bug-guix@gnu.org; Fri, 30 Oct 2015 13:07:06 -0400 Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:55729) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZsD8o-0004d4-P4 for bug-guix@gnu.org; Fri, 30 Oct 2015 13:07:02 -0400 Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZsD8o-00048E-AW for bug-guix@gnu.org; Fri, 30 Oct 2015 13:07:02 -0400 Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20151029215102.384751ae@debian-netbook> (Efraim Flashner's message of "Thu, 29 Oct 2015 21:51:02 +0200") List-Id: Bug reports for GNU Guix List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-guix-bounces+gcggb-bug-guix=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: bug-guix-bounces+gcggb-bug-guix=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Efraim Flashner Cc: 21784@debbugs.gnu.org Efraim Flashner skribis: > It turns out that hydra, the automated build server for guix, has a copy = of > xz that you can download if you authorize hydra to provide substitutions. > With a copy of hydra.gnu.org.pub, the command is `sudo guix archive > --authorize hydra.gnu.org.pub`. After that, instead of building everything > locally, your computer will first check to see if hydra has already built= a > package and you can just download it. Since we must have an additional URL to fetch it. I looked for mirrors on the Web for this tarball and couldn=E2=80=99t find = one (fossies.org doesn=E2=80=99t have it, for instance.) Then I wanted to upload it to ftp://alpha.gnu.org/gnu/guix/mirror, but that is rejected: file rejected: xz-5.0.4.tar.gz contains a vulnerable Makefile.in CVE-2012-3386 Regenerate it with automake 1.11.6 / 1.12.2 or newer. So we need another solution. Any suggestions? Like mirror URLs I might have missed? TIA, Ludo=E2=80=99. From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Andreas Enge Subject: bug#21784: Alternate xz-5.0.4.tar.gz URL Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2015 18:12:11 +0100 Message-ID: <20151030171211.GA23532@debian> References: <20151029212019.6f59107f@debian-netbook> <20151029215102.384751ae@debian-netbook> <87vb9ocmlp.fsf_-_@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:52109) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZsDEh-0004Fp-Lx for bug-guix@gnu.org; Fri, 30 Oct 2015 13:13:08 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZsDEc-0006bK-Fo for bug-guix@gnu.org; Fri, 30 Oct 2015 13:13:07 -0400 Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:55738) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZsDEc-0006bF-Cq for bug-guix@gnu.org; Fri, 30 Oct 2015 13:13:02 -0400 Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZsDEb-0004HL-RI for bug-guix@gnu.org; Fri, 30 Oct 2015 13:13:01 -0400 Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-Message-ID: Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <87vb9ocmlp.fsf_-_@gnu.org> List-Id: Bug reports for GNU Guix List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-guix-bounces+gcggb-bug-guix=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: bug-guix-bounces+gcggb-bug-guix=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Ludovic =?UTF-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?= Cc: 21784@debbugs.gnu.org On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 06:06:26PM +0100, Ludovic Courtès wrote: > So we need another solution. Any suggestions? I would not mind hosting it on enge.fr, but this is of course less reliable than "real" hosting, since the machine is in my living room. Alternatively, I could host it with a commercial hoster at multiprecision.org. Andreas From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Lasse Collin Subject: bug#21784: cannot install icecat! Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2015 19:47:30 +0200 Message-ID: <20151030194730.4a2639ae@tukaani.org> References: <87r3kd8lpb.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:34733) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZsDoT-0005BE-RM for bug-guix@gnu.org; Fri, 30 Oct 2015 13:50:06 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZsDoQ-0000hn-HM for bug-guix@gnu.org; Fri, 30 Oct 2015 13:50:05 -0400 Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:55754) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZsDoQ-0000hg-EO for bug-guix@gnu.org; Fri, 30 Oct 2015 13:50:02 -0400 Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZsDoQ-0006pG-3Q for bug-guix@gnu.org; Fri, 30 Oct 2015 13:50:02 -0400 Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <87r3kd8lpb.fsf@gnu.org> List-Id: Bug reports for GNU Guix List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-guix-bounces+gcggb-bug-guix=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: bug-guix-bounces+gcggb-bug-guix=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Ludovic =?UTF-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?= Cc: "-=}\\*/{=-" , 21784@debbugs.gnu.org On 2015-10-29 Ludovic Court=C3=A8s wrote: > "-=3D}\*/{=3D-" skribis: >=20 > > ERROR: download failed "http://tukaani.org/xz/xz-5.0.4.tar.gz" 403 > > "Forbidden" >=20 > This seems to be an issue at tukaani.org since this URL is still > listed at . >=20 > Lasse: Could it be that the permissions for old tarballs were > inadvertently changed? As documented at the beginning of the page you linked, it's intentional but (possibly) temporary. I'm sorry for the inconvenience. For some reason the old XZ Utils versions are more popular downloads than the latest versions (5.0.8 and 5.2.2). Perhaps I should move the downloads somewhere else to avoid bandwidth quota issues, but on the other hand I feel that it's not nice if source-based distributions rely on upstream servers instead of providing their own distro-specific mirrors. If you think this isn't a reasonable wish, feel free to say so. By the way, is there a reason why you use 5.0.4 instead of 5.0.8 (or even 5.2.2)? I know that the point of many stable distributions is that packages don't get upgraded without a good reason, but with XZ Utils a stable branch gets fixes without new features. I hope this makes it easier for downstream distributions to make bug fixes available for users (backporting gets done by the upstream). --=20 Lasse Collin | IRC: Larhzu @ IRCnet & Freenode From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic =?UTF-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?=) Subject: bug#21784: Old XZ tarballs Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2015 20:58:27 +0100 Message-ID: <87si4sb02k.fsf_-_@gnu.org> References: <87r3kd8lpb.fsf@gnu.org> <20151030194730.4a2639ae@tukaani.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:35445) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZsFpK-0004g4-Fg for bug-guix@gnu.org; Fri, 30 Oct 2015 15:59:07 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZsFpG-0000AR-FH for bug-guix@gnu.org; Fri, 30 Oct 2015 15:59:06 -0400 Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:55820) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZsFpG-0000AN-BV for bug-guix@gnu.org; Fri, 30 Oct 2015 15:59:02 -0400 Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZsFpG-0001bj-3P for bug-guix@gnu.org; Fri, 30 Oct 2015 15:59:02 -0400 Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20151030194730.4a2639ae@tukaani.org> (Lasse Collin's message of "Fri, 30 Oct 2015 19:47:30 +0200") List-Id: Bug reports for GNU Guix List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-guix-bounces+gcggb-bug-guix=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: bug-guix-bounces+gcggb-bug-guix=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Lasse Collin Cc: 21784@debbugs.gnu.org Hi, Lasse Collin skribis: > On 2015-10-29 Ludovic Court=C3=A8s wrote: >> "-=3D}\*/{=3D-" skribis: >>=20 >> > ERROR: download failed "http://tukaani.org/xz/xz-5.0.4.tar.gz" 403 >> > "Forbidden" >>=20 >> This seems to be an issue at tukaani.org since this URL is still >> listed at . >>=20 >> Lasse: Could it be that the permissions for old tarballs were >> inadvertently changed? > > As documented at the beginning of the page you linked, it's intentional > but (possibly) temporary. I'm sorry for the inconvenience. Sorry, I had overlooked that. > For some reason the old XZ Utils versions are more popular downloads > than the latest versions (5.0.8 and 5.2.2). Perhaps I should move the > downloads somewhere else to avoid bandwidth quota issues, Some people move old tarballs to an old/ sub-directory, to make sure people do not mistakenly take an old version. I don=E2=80=99t know if that would help here? > but on the other hand I feel that it's not nice if source-based > distributions rely on upstream servers instead of providing their own > distro-specific mirrors. If you think this isn't a reasonable wish, > feel free to say so. Guix does automatically mirror tarballs via its =E2=80=9Csubstitute=E2=80= =9D mechanism. However, users can turn it off, in which case they end up downloading the tarball from the upstream URL specified in the package recipe. > By the way, is there a reason why you use 5.0.4 instead of 5.0.8 (or > even 5.2.2)? No good reason! We=E2=80=99ll upgrade it as soon as this can be done witho= ut triggering too much rebuild/redownloads for users. Thank you, Ludo=E2=80=99. From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic =?UTF-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?=) Subject: bug#21784: Alternate xz-5.0.4.tar.gz URL Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2015 11:41:41 +0100 Message-ID: <87ziyz8gm2.fsf@gnu.org> References: <20151029212019.6f59107f@debian-netbook> <20151029215102.384751ae@debian-netbook> <87vb9ocmlp.fsf_-_@gnu.org> <20151030171211.GA23532@debian> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:40204) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZsTbp-0004OU-KG for bug-guix@gnu.org; Sat, 31 Oct 2015 06:42:06 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZsTbm-0004ah-8w for bug-guix@gnu.org; Sat, 31 Oct 2015 06:42:05 -0400 Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:56030) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZsTbm-0004ad-6Z for bug-guix@gnu.org; Sat, 31 Oct 2015 06:42:02 -0400 Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZsTbl-0005sw-VZ for bug-guix@gnu.org; Sat, 31 Oct 2015 06:42:02 -0400 Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20151030171211.GA23532@debian> (Andreas Enge's message of "Fri, 30 Oct 2015 18:12:11 +0100") List-Id: Bug reports for GNU Guix List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-guix-bounces+gcggb-bug-guix=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: bug-guix-bounces+gcggb-bug-guix=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Andreas Enge Cc: 21784@debbugs.gnu.org Andreas Enge skribis: > On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 06:06:26PM +0100, Ludovic Court=C3=A8s wrote: >> So we need another solution. Any suggestions?=20 > > I would not mind hosting it on enge.fr, but this is of course less reliab= le > than "real" hosting, since the machine is in my living room. Alternativel= y, > I could host it with a commercial hoster at multiprecision.org. Could you put a copy at multiprecision.org? That would be great. Thanks! Ludo=E2=80=99. From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Lasse Collin Subject: bug#21784: Old XZ tarballs Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2015 20:29:08 +0200 Message-ID: <20151031202908.5548817d@tukaani.org> References: <87r3kd8lpb.fsf@gnu.org> <20151030194730.4a2639ae@tukaani.org> <87si4sb02k.fsf_-_@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:38813) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zsavj-0006eo-Rm for bug-guix@gnu.org; Sat, 31 Oct 2015 14:31:08 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zsave-00052c-Qq for bug-guix@gnu.org; Sat, 31 Oct 2015 14:31:07 -0400 Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:56610) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zsave-00052Y-NX for bug-guix@gnu.org; Sat, 31 Oct 2015 14:31:02 -0400 Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Zsave-0003o6-Jr for bug-guix@gnu.org; Sat, 31 Oct 2015 14:31:02 -0400 Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <87si4sb02k.fsf_-_@gnu.org> List-Id: Bug reports for GNU Guix List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-guix-bounces+gcggb-bug-guix=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: bug-guix-bounces+gcggb-bug-guix=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Ludovic =?UTF-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?= Cc: 21784@debbugs.gnu.org On 2015-10-30 Ludovic Court=C3=A8s wrote: > Lasse Collin skribis: > > For some reason the old XZ Utils versions are more popular downloads > > than the latest versions (5.0.8 and 5.2.2). Perhaps I should move > > the downloads somewhere else to avoid bandwidth quota issues, >=20 > Some people move old tarballs to an old/ sub-directory, to make sure > people do not mistakenly take an old version. I don=E2=80=99t know if th= at > would help here? I don't like to break links intentionally. I know I did exactly that a few days ago, but it cannot be the long-term solution. The links to old versions are on a separate page already, so those using a web browser are unlikely to get an old version by accident. > > but on the other hand I feel that it's not nice if source-based > > distributions rely on upstream servers instead of providing their > > own distro-specific mirrors. If you think this isn't a reasonable > > wish, feel free to say so. >=20 > Guix does automatically mirror tarballs via its =E2=80=9Csubstitute=E2=80= =9D > mechanism. However, users can turn it off, in which case they end up > downloading the tarball from the upstream URL specified in the > package recipe. OK. :-) Why would users turn it off though? I would guess that one good mirror would be more reliable than dozens of upstream sites of which just one needs to be down to be a problem for a user. A package manager should know the hash or signature of the file, so from security point of view it doesn't matter where the file comes. Note that I have nothing against including the upstream URL in the build scripts. I just wish that it doesn't cause a *large* number of users downloading the file from the upstream instead of distro's mirror. To be fair, xz-5.0.4.tar.gz hasn't been a popular download (xz-5.0.4.tar.bz2 is somewhat popular though), so I believe Guix users haven't caused a significant amount of traffic for me. :-) > > By the way, is there a reason why you use 5.0.4 instead of 5.0.8 (or > > even 5.2.2)? >=20 > No good reason! We=E2=80=99ll upgrade it as soon as this can be done wit= hout > triggering too much rebuild/redownloads for users. API/ABI is backward compatible so one shouldn't need to rebuild other packages. There's a mailing list "xz-announce" in case you want a notification when a new version is released: --=20 Lasse Collin | IRC: Larhzu @ IRCnet & Freenode From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Andreas Enge Subject: bug#21784: Alternate xz-5.0.4.tar.gz URL Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2015 22:20:32 +0100 Message-ID: <20151031212032.GA11664@debian> References: <20151029212019.6f59107f@debian-netbook> <20151029215102.384751ae@debian-netbook> <87vb9ocmlp.fsf_-_@gnu.org> <20151030171211.GA23532@debian> <87ziyz8gm2.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:38232) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZsdbC-0004Zt-VE for bug-guix@gnu.org; Sat, 31 Oct 2015 17:22:07 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zsdb9-0005lH-1C for bug-guix@gnu.org; Sat, 31 Oct 2015 17:22:06 -0400 Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:56631) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zsdb8-0005lD-UR for bug-guix@gnu.org; Sat, 31 Oct 2015 17:22:02 -0400 Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Zsdb8-0007ow-HZ for bug-guix@gnu.org; Sat, 31 Oct 2015 17:22:02 -0400 Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-Message-ID: Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <87ziyz8gm2.fsf@gnu.org> List-Id: Bug reports for GNU Guix List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-guix-bounces+gcggb-bug-guix=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: bug-guix-bounces+gcggb-bug-guix=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Ludovic =?UTF-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?= Cc: 21784@debbugs.gnu.org On Sat, Oct 31, 2015 at 11:41:41AM +0100, Ludovic Courtès wrote: > Could you put a copy at multiprecision.org? That would be great. Is that it? The result of "guix build xz -S" copied over: http://www.multiprecision.org/guix/0d7xnp3nji2mi4cw4jmd3mzbpija9a5a-xz-5.0.4.tar.gz Andreas From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic =?UTF-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?=) Subject: bug#21784: Old XZ tarballs Date: Sun, 01 Nov 2015 11:20:07 +0100 Message-ID: <87y4ei58dk.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87r3kd8lpb.fsf@gnu.org> <20151030194730.4a2639ae@tukaani.org> <87si4sb02k.fsf_-_@gnu.org> <20151031202908.5548817d@tukaani.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:33488) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zspl3-0005W1-Ua for bug-guix@gnu.org; Sun, 01 Nov 2015 05:21:06 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zspl0-00074Y-RC for bug-guix@gnu.org; Sun, 01 Nov 2015 05:21:05 -0500 Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:56795) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zspl0-00074U-OF for bug-guix@gnu.org; Sun, 01 Nov 2015 05:21:02 -0500 Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Zspl0-0001UA-EQ for bug-guix@gnu.org; Sun, 01 Nov 2015 05:21:02 -0500 Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20151031202908.5548817d@tukaani.org> (Lasse Collin's message of "Sat, 31 Oct 2015 20:29:08 +0200") List-Id: Bug reports for GNU Guix List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-guix-bounces+gcggb-bug-guix=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: bug-guix-bounces+gcggb-bug-guix=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Lasse Collin Cc: 21784@debbugs.gnu.org Lasse Collin skribis: > On 2015-10-30 Ludovic Court=C3=A8s wrote: [...] >> Guix does automatically mirror tarballs via its =E2=80=9Csubstitute=E2= =80=9D >> mechanism. However, users can turn it off, in which case they end up >> downloading the tarball from the upstream URL specified in the >> package recipe. > > OK. :-) Why would users turn it off though? The substitute mechanism is very generic; it=E2=80=99s not just about mirro= ring tarballs: http://www.gnu.org/software/guix/manual/html_node/Substitutes.html Some people might prefer to build things locally rather than download pre-built items. > I would guess that one good mirror would be more reliable than dozens > of upstream sites of which just one needs to be down to be a problem > for a user. A package manager should know the hash or signature of the > file, so from security point of view it doesn't matter where the file > comes. Yes exactly, all we need is to mirror it somewhere. >> > By the way, is there a reason why you use 5.0.4 instead of 5.0.8 (or >> > even 5.2.2)? >>=20 >> No good reason! We=E2=80=99ll upgrade it as soon as this can be done wi= thout >> triggering too much rebuild/redownloads for users. > > API/ABI is backward compatible so one shouldn't need to rebuild other > packages. There's a mailing list "xz-announce" in case you want a > notification when a new version is released: > Noted, thanks! Ludo=E2=80=99. From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic =?UTF-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?=) Subject: bug#21784: Alternate xz-5.0.4.tar.gz URL Date: Sun, 01 Nov 2015 11:20:59 +0100 Message-ID: <87twp658c4.fsf@gnu.org> References: <20151029212019.6f59107f@debian-netbook> <20151029215102.384751ae@debian-netbook> <87vb9ocmlp.fsf_-_@gnu.org> <20151030171211.GA23532@debian> <87ziyz8gm2.fsf@gnu.org> <20151031212032.GA11664@debian> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:33700) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zspm3-0005a9-7Y for bug-guix@gnu.org; Sun, 01 Nov 2015 05:22:07 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zsply-0007Aj-BG for bug-guix@gnu.org; Sun, 01 Nov 2015 05:22:07 -0500 Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:56799) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zsply-0007Ae-7t for bug-guix@gnu.org; Sun, 01 Nov 2015 05:22:02 -0500 Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Zsplx-0001Vj-S0 for bug-guix@gnu.org; Sun, 01 Nov 2015 05:22:01 -0500 Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20151031212032.GA11664@debian> (Andreas Enge's message of "Sat, 31 Oct 2015 22:20:32 +0100") List-Id: Bug reports for GNU Guix List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-guix-bounces+gcggb-bug-guix=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: bug-guix-bounces+gcggb-bug-guix=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Andreas Enge Cc: 21784@debbugs.gnu.org Andreas Enge skribis: > On Sat, Oct 31, 2015 at 11:41:41AM +0100, Ludovic Court=C3=A8s wrote: >> Could you put a copy at multiprecision.org? That would be great. > > Is that it? The result of "guix build xz -S" copied over: > http://www.multiprecision.org/guix/0d7xnp3nji2mi4cw4jmd3mzbpija9a5a-xz= -5.0.4.tar.gz Cool. Could you rename it to =E2=80=98xz-5.0.4.tar.gz=E2=80=99? Thanks, Ludo=E2=80=99. From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Andreas Enge Subject: bug#21784: Alternate xz-5.0.4.tar.gz URL Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2015 13:06:11 +0100 Message-ID: <20151101120611.GB3493@debian> References: <20151029212019.6f59107f@debian-netbook> <20151029215102.384751ae@debian-netbook> <87vb9ocmlp.fsf_-_@gnu.org> <20151030171211.GA23532@debian> <87ziyz8gm2.fsf@gnu.org> <20151031212032.GA11664@debian> <87twp658c4.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:46871) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZsrPd-00064Y-Mt for bug-guix@gnu.org; Sun, 01 Nov 2015 07:07:06 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZsrPa-0006A6-HG for bug-guix@gnu.org; Sun, 01 Nov 2015 07:07:05 -0500 Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:56831) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZsrPa-0006A1-F8 for bug-guix@gnu.org; Sun, 01 Nov 2015 07:07:02 -0500 Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZsrPZ-00042e-RI for bug-guix@gnu.org; Sun, 01 Nov 2015 07:07:01 -0500 Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-Message-ID: Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <87twp658c4.fsf@gnu.org> List-Id: Bug reports for GNU Guix List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-guix-bounces+gcggb-bug-guix=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: bug-guix-bounces+gcggb-bug-guix=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Ludovic =?UTF-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?= Cc: 21784@debbugs.gnu.org On Sun, Nov 01, 2015 at 11:20:59AM +0100, Ludovic Courtès wrote: > Cool. Could you rename it to ‘xz-5.0.4.tar.gz’? Done! Andreas From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic =?UTF-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?=) Subject: bug#21784: Alternate xz-5.0.4.tar.gz URL Date: Sun, 01 Nov 2015 21:05:47 +0100 Message-ID: <87fv0p1o4k.fsf@gnu.org> References: <20151029212019.6f59107f@debian-netbook> <20151029215102.384751ae@debian-netbook> <87vb9ocmlp.fsf_-_@gnu.org> <20151030171211.GA23532@debian> <87ziyz8gm2.fsf@gnu.org> <20151031212032.GA11664@debian> <87twp658c4.fsf@gnu.org> <20151101120611.GB3493@debian> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:33683) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zsyu8-0001m9-93 for bug-guix@gnu.org; Sun, 01 Nov 2015 15:07:04 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zsyu6-0008Up-KE for bug-guix@gnu.org; Sun, 01 Nov 2015 15:07:04 -0500 Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:57410) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zsyu6-0008Ul-H2 for bug-guix@gnu.org; Sun, 01 Nov 2015 15:07:02 -0500 Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Zsyu6-0004nL-6m for bug-guix@gnu.org; Sun, 01 Nov 2015 15:07:02 -0500 Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-To: bug-guix@gnu.org Resent-Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20151101120611.GB3493@debian> (Andreas Enge's message of "Sun, 1 Nov 2015 13:06:11 +0100") List-Id: Bug reports for GNU Guix List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-guix-bounces+gcggb-bug-guix=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: bug-guix-bounces+gcggb-bug-guix=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Andreas Enge Cc: 21784-done@debbugs.gnu.org Andreas Enge skribis: > On Sun, Nov 01, 2015 at 11:20:59AM +0100, Ludovic Court=C3=A8s wrote: >> Cool. Could you rename it to =E2=80=98xz-5.0.4.tar.gz=E2=80=99? > > Done! I=E2=80=99m adding it as an alternate URL in (gnu packages compression). Thank you! Ludo=E2=80=99. From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Lasse Collin Subject: bug#21784: Old XZ tarballs Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2015 14:07:18 +0200 Message-ID: <20151102140718.4414a8d7@tukaani.org> References: <87r3kd8lpb.fsf@gnu.org> <20151030194730.4a2639ae@tukaani.org> <87si4sb02k.fsf_-_@gnu.org> <20151031202908.5548817d@tukaani.org> <87y4ei58dk.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:33620) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZtDv7-00072S-UL for bug-guix@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Nov 2015 07:09:06 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZtDv4-0002az-Fd for bug-guix@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Nov 2015 07:09:05 -0500 Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:57856) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZtDv4-0002au-Ci for bug-guix@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Nov 2015 07:09:02 -0500 Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZtDv3-0007t6-MG for bug-guix@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Nov 2015 07:09:01 -0500 Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <87y4ei58dk.fsf@gnu.org> List-Id: Bug reports for GNU Guix List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-guix-bounces+gcggb-bug-guix=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: bug-guix-bounces+gcggb-bug-guix=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Ludovic =?UTF-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?= Cc: 21784@debbugs.gnu.org On 2015-11-01 Ludovic Court=C3=A8s wrote: > Lasse Collin skribis: >=20 > > On 2015-10-30 Ludovic Court=C3=A8s wrote: >=20 > [...] >=20 > >> Guix does automatically mirror tarballs via its =E2=80=9Csubstitute=E2= =80=9D > >> mechanism. However, users can turn it off, in which case they end > >> up downloading the tarball from the upstream URL specified in the > >> package recipe. > > > > OK. :-) Why would users turn it off though? >=20 > The substitute mechanism is very generic; it=E2=80=99s not just about > mirroring tarballs: >=20 > http://www.gnu.org/software/guix/manual/html_node/Substitutes.html >=20 > Some people might prefer to build things locally rather than download > pre-built items. That makes sense, but I don't understand how it implies that the source packages will then be downloaded from upstream servers. Since you are distributing binary packages, I assume you are also distributing the matching source packages due to many packages being under the GNU (L)GPL. My understanding is that the GNU GPL requires that if you distribute the binary, you must take care of making the source code available too. Anyway, I'm sorry for the hassle and for perhaps making a mountain out of a molehill. Based on the number of xz-5.0.4.tar.gz downloads, Guix users didn't create much traffic for me. You just happened to get affected when I was trying to find out what distros where causing most of the traffic. --=20 Lasse Collin | IRC: Larhzu @ IRCnet & Freenode From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic =?UTF-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?=) Subject: bug#21784: Old XZ tarballs Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2015 14:37:56 +0100 Message-ID: <87r3k8jzd7.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87r3kd8lpb.fsf@gnu.org> <20151030194730.4a2639ae@tukaani.org> <87si4sb02k.fsf_-_@gnu.org> <20151031202908.5548817d@tukaani.org> <87y4ei58dk.fsf@gnu.org> <20151102140718.4414a8d7@tukaani.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:58754) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZtFKF-0000aZ-12 for bug-guix@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Nov 2015 08:39:08 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZtFKA-0006KH-6x for bug-guix@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Nov 2015 08:39:06 -0500 Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:57905) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZtFKA-0006KC-3C for bug-guix@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Nov 2015 08:39:02 -0500 Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZtFK9-0003P7-Pp for bug-guix@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Nov 2015 08:39:01 -0500 Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20151102140718.4414a8d7@tukaani.org> (Lasse Collin's message of "Mon, 2 Nov 2015 14:07:18 +0200") List-Id: Bug reports for GNU Guix List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-guix-bounces+gcggb-bug-guix=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: bug-guix-bounces+gcggb-bug-guix=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Lasse Collin Cc: 21784@debbugs.gnu.org Lasse Collin skribis: > On 2015-11-01 Ludovic Court=C3=A8s wrote: >> Lasse Collin skribis: >>=20 >> > On 2015-10-30 Ludovic Court=C3=A8s wrote: >>=20 >> [...] >>=20 >> >> Guix does automatically mirror tarballs via its =E2=80=9Csubstitute= =E2=80=9D >> >> mechanism. However, users can turn it off, in which case they end >> >> up downloading the tarball from the upstream URL specified in the >> >> package recipe. >> > >> > OK. :-) Why would users turn it off though? >>=20 >> The substitute mechanism is very generic; it=E2=80=99s not just about >> mirroring tarballs: >>=20 >> http://www.gnu.org/software/guix/manual/html_node/Substitutes.html >>=20 >> Some people might prefer to build things locally rather than download >> pre-built items. > > That makes sense, but I don't understand how it implies that the source > packages will then be downloaded from upstream servers. It might sound counter-intuitive, but our server at gnu.org provides substitutes for =E2=80=9Cthings=E2=80=9D users could do locally; these =E2= =80=9Cthings=E2=80=9D include building software, and downloading source. Quoting the above page: Substitutes can be anything resulting from a derivation build (see Derivations). Of course, in the common case, they are pre-built package binaries, but source tarballs, for instance, which also result from derivation builds, can be available as substitutes. > Anyway, I'm sorry for the hassle and for perhaps making a mountain out > of a molehill. No problem. It is best if URLs remain stable over time, but I understand there are cost constraints related to hosting. Maybe an option for you in the longer term would be to use a service such as savannah.gnu.org, which could host tarballs virtually forever and which is mirrored. Thanks, Ludo=E2=80=99. From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Lasse Collin Subject: bug#21784: Old XZ tarballs Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2015 16:24:27 +0200 Message-ID: <20151102162427.0be85ee5@tukaani.org> References: <87r3kd8lpb.fsf@gnu.org> <20151030194730.4a2639ae@tukaani.org> <87si4sb02k.fsf_-_@gnu.org> <20151031202908.5548817d@tukaani.org> <87y4ei58dk.fsf@gnu.org> <20151102140718.4414a8d7@tukaani.org> <87r3k8jzd7.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:41466) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZtG3i-0006Zc-B5 for bug-guix@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Nov 2015 09:26:07 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZtG3f-0007fe-5x for bug-guix@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Nov 2015 09:26:06 -0500 Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:57936) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZtG3f-0007fa-2Z for bug-guix@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Nov 2015 09:26:03 -0500 Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZtG3e-0004fK-IH for bug-guix@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Nov 2015 09:26:02 -0500 Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <87r3k8jzd7.fsf@gnu.org> List-Id: Bug reports for GNU Guix List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-guix-bounces+gcggb-bug-guix=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: bug-guix-bounces+gcggb-bug-guix=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Ludovic =?UTF-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?= Cc: 21784@debbugs.gnu.org On 2015-11-02 Ludovic Court=C3=A8s wrote: > No problem. It is best if URLs remain stable over time, but I > understand there are cost constraints related to hosting. >=20 > Maybe an option for you in the longer term would be to use a service > such as savannah.gnu.org, which could host tarballs virtually forever > and which is mirrored. Maybe, I had already thought about that some time ago. On the other hand I have felt that it's weird if upstreams should do such things solely because package managers in some source-based distros use upstreams as their primary source of packages (I don't count Guix into this category). Over half of my bandwidth quota is used for serving old xz versions and that somehow that doesn't feel right, but perhaps it's just me being weird. 5.0.4.tar.gz and .bz2 are up again on tukaani.org so at least Guix shouldn't have issues now because of me. Thanks! :-) --=20 Lasse Collin | IRC: Larhzu @ IRCnet & Freenode From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic =?UTF-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?=) Subject: bug#21784: Old XZ tarballs Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2015 16:07:11 +0100 Message-ID: <87io5kigo0.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87r3kd8lpb.fsf@gnu.org> <20151030194730.4a2639ae@tukaani.org> <87si4sb02k.fsf_-_@gnu.org> <20151031202908.5548817d@tukaani.org> <87y4ei58dk.fsf@gnu.org> <20151102140718.4414a8d7@tukaani.org> <87r3k8jzd7.fsf@gnu.org> <20151102162427.0be85ee5@tukaani.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:53126) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZtGiM-0002n8-Jp for bug-guix@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Nov 2015 10:08:10 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZtGiI-0000HU-Cz for bug-guix@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Nov 2015 10:08:06 -0500 Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:59121) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZtGiI-0000HM-8b for bug-guix@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Nov 2015 10:08:02 -0500 Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZtGiH-0005z9-UK for bug-guix@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Nov 2015 10:08:02 -0500 Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20151102162427.0be85ee5@tukaani.org> (Lasse Collin's message of "Mon, 2 Nov 2015 16:24:27 +0200") List-Id: Bug reports for GNU Guix List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-guix-bounces+gcggb-bug-guix=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: bug-guix-bounces+gcggb-bug-guix=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Lasse Collin Cc: 21784@debbugs.gnu.org Lasse Collin skribis: > On 2015-11-02 Ludovic Court=C3=A8s wrote: >> No problem. It is best if URLs remain stable over time, but I >> understand there are cost constraints related to hosting. >>=20 >> Maybe an option for you in the longer term would be to use a service >> such as savannah.gnu.org, which could host tarballs virtually forever >> and which is mirrored. > > Maybe, I had already thought about that some time ago. On the other > hand I have felt that it's weird if upstreams should do such things > solely because package managers in some source-based distros use > upstreams as their primary source of packages (I don't count Guix into > this category). Over half of my bandwidth quota is used for serving old > xz versions and that somehow that doesn't feel right, but perhaps it's > just me being weird. I agree that it=E2=80=99s weird that old tarballs get so much attention. In an ideal world, every distro and user would upgrade on the day of the new release, but it turns out to take much more time. Another way to look at it is to think of the web as an append-only place, similar to Git. If people want to access old tarballs for whatever reasons, it should be possible. Anyway, thanks again. :-) Ludo=E2=80=99.