From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic =?UTF-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?=) Subject: bug#21784: Old XZ tarballs Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2015 16:07:11 +0100 Message-ID: <87io5kigo0.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87r3kd8lpb.fsf@gnu.org> <20151030194730.4a2639ae@tukaani.org> <87si4sb02k.fsf_-_@gnu.org> <20151031202908.5548817d@tukaani.org> <87y4ei58dk.fsf@gnu.org> <20151102140718.4414a8d7@tukaani.org> <87r3k8jzd7.fsf@gnu.org> <20151102162427.0be85ee5@tukaani.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:53126) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZtGiM-0002n8-Jp for bug-guix@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Nov 2015 10:08:10 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZtGiI-0000HU-Cz for bug-guix@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Nov 2015 10:08:06 -0500 Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:59121) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZtGiI-0000HM-8b for bug-guix@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Nov 2015 10:08:02 -0500 Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZtGiH-0005z9-UK for bug-guix@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Nov 2015 10:08:02 -0500 Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20151102162427.0be85ee5@tukaani.org> (Lasse Collin's message of "Mon, 2 Nov 2015 16:24:27 +0200") List-Id: Bug reports for GNU Guix List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-guix-bounces+gcggb-bug-guix=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: bug-guix-bounces+gcggb-bug-guix=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Lasse Collin Cc: 21784@debbugs.gnu.org Lasse Collin skribis: > On 2015-11-02 Ludovic Court=C3=A8s wrote: >> No problem. It is best if URLs remain stable over time, but I >> understand there are cost constraints related to hosting. >>=20 >> Maybe an option for you in the longer term would be to use a service >> such as savannah.gnu.org, which could host tarballs virtually forever >> and which is mirrored. > > Maybe, I had already thought about that some time ago. On the other > hand I have felt that it's weird if upstreams should do such things > solely because package managers in some source-based distros use > upstreams as their primary source of packages (I don't count Guix into > this category). Over half of my bandwidth quota is used for serving old > xz versions and that somehow that doesn't feel right, but perhaps it's > just me being weird. I agree that it=E2=80=99s weird that old tarballs get so much attention. In an ideal world, every distro and user would upgrade on the day of the new release, but it turns out to take much more time. Another way to look at it is to think of the web as an append-only place, similar to Git. If people want to access old tarballs for whatever reasons, it should be possible. Anyway, thanks again. :-) Ludo=E2=80=99.