From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: =?UTF-8?Q?Cl=C3=A9ment?= Lassieur Subject: bug#31786: 'pre-inst-env guix --version' is not updated by new commits" Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2018 18:45:51 +0200 Message-ID: <87in6ltiyo.fsf@lassieur.org> References: <87r2lddwyg.fsf@gmail.com> <87k1r4p2ca.fsf@gnu.org> <87k1r3271g.fsf@gmail.com> <87d0wvoicy.fsf@gnu.org> <87o9gf5x0t.fsf@gmail.com> <87wov3npl2.fsf@gnu.org> <20180614013938.GD29167@jasmine.lan> <87d0wttn0v.fsf@gmail.com> <87k1r1tklq.fsf@lassieur.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:39350) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fTVNt-0006PN-Ey for bug-guix@gnu.org; Thu, 14 Jun 2018 12:46:06 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fTVNq-0004jM-AN for bug-guix@gnu.org; Thu, 14 Jun 2018 12:46:05 -0400 Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:40487) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fTVNq-0004j1-6P for bug-guix@gnu.org; Thu, 14 Jun 2018 12:46:02 -0400 Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fTVNp-00067f-Vv for bug-guix@gnu.org; Thu, 14 Jun 2018 12:46:02 -0400 Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-Message-ID: In-reply-to: <87k1r1tklq.fsf@lassieur.org> List-Id: Bug reports for GNU Guix List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-guix-bounces+gcggb-bug-guix=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: "bug-Guix" To: George Clemmer Cc: 31786@debbugs.gnu.org Cl=C3=A9ment Lassieur writes: > Hi George, > > George Clemmer writes: > >> Leo Famulari writes: >> >>> On Wed, Jun 13, 2018 at 08:54:49AM +0200, Ludovic Court=C3=A8s wrote: >>>> The other aspect, from a maintenance and readability viewpoint, is that >>>> we could quickly add up lots of explanations that we=E2=80=99ll have t= o keep >>>> up-to-date and that may make more important information harder to find. >>> >>> Yeah, I'm worried about this too. It's tough to strike the correct >>> balance. >> >> IMO Guix is great for hackers, maintainers and sysops. The doc is >> appropriate for such users, well done, spare, and already voluminous. >> >> This footnote suggestion, and others rejected in the past, are motivated >> by my assumption that you will want to make Guix attractive to less >> sophisticated users. > > But non-hacker users can use Guix pull! Running Guix before it is > installed (with pre-inst-env) is described in the manual as a "Hacker > trick". > >> Maybe my assumption is wrong? Maybe you want only "elite" users? > > Guix pull is well documented, and should be usable for non-elite users. > >> Or maybe you want to defer the less sophisticated users to later in the >> development cycle? > > Cl=C3=A9ment Sorry if I sounded a bit rude, it wasn't my intention. :-)