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aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gnu.org; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "bug-guix-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="bug-guix-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -3.62 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gnu.org; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "bug-guix-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="bug-guix-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Queue-Id: BAB763BE4D X-Spam-Score: -3.62 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn1.migadu.com X-TUID: ko/YK/OhCV6K Hello, Maxim Cournoyer skribis: > Ludovic Court=C3=A8s writes: > > [...] > >>> I'm not sure. The beauty of Shepherd, in my eyes, when compared to >>> other init systems, is that it is lean and clean. Leveraging what's >>> already out there (and part of GNU) seems an obvious path to me, as it: >>> >>> 1. Means less code to write, document and maintain. >>> 2. Creates more cohesion between various components of the GNU project. >> >> Heheh, Guix was started to address #2 actually. Today, I think #2 is >> okay but should not be an obstacle. > > I personally still think the idea is more than "okay"; I see value in > it; one of the obvious benefits is documentation; most GNU packages come > with Texinfo documentation, which makes for a nice, integrated > experience. I also think that as the system becomes more established > and integrate more of GNU, more GNU packages maintainers may be > interested in joining and contributing (reaching some critical mass). Heheh. :-) >> As for #1, sure, but Shepherd will need to grow a proper event loop >> anyway, so socket activation won=E2=80=99t make much of a difference. > > If we keep it dumb and use inetd, it wouldn't, right? It will get that, independent of socket activation. > From what I understand, systemd uses socket activation as a means to > chain events, while inetd is typically used to delay a service > starting to save on resources such as RAM (for services seldom used). > Is my primitive understanding about right? Yes. In most cases, it=E2=80=99s about starting services lazily (much like= the Hurd=E2=80=99s passive translators, too.) Thanks, Ludo=E2=80=99.