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dkim=fail (rsa verify failed) header.d=elephly.net header.s=zoho header.b=ht3pGSJi; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of bug-guix-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=bug-guix-bounces@gnu.org X-Spam-Score: 1.99 X-TUID: lb7v5buBAPlz zimoun writes: > I understand the annoyance and the frustration of the substitutes > availability but I am not convinced that some packages have higher > priority on the substitute delivery than others. Hard to say. I think this discussion is a little premature given our historic underutilization of the build farm hardware, which is very often idle. Perhaps once the instrumentation of Cuirass has yielded actionable paths to improving this we can reconsider if priorization is still necessary or even feasible. -- Ricardo