From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp1 ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms11 with LMTPS id +A6NDJ+Ez19ZYwAA0tVLHw (envelope-from ) for ; Tue, 08 Dec 2020 13:50:23 +0000 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp1 with LMTPS id kIlHCJ+Ez1/wQgAAbx9fmQ (envelope-from ) for ; Tue, 08 Dec 2020 13:50:23 +0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C1EBD9402C8 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2020 13:50:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([::1]:42592 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kmdNj-0007pl-Qm for larch@yhetil.org; Tue, 08 Dec 2020 08:50:20 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:45908) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kmdNS-0007oY-TS for bug-guix@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Dec 2020 08:50:03 -0500 Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:45368) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kmdNR-0002b4-Uw for bug-guix@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Dec 2020 08:50:02 -0500 Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kmdNR-0005hN-Sq for bug-guix@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Dec 2020 08:50:01 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#44808: Default to allowing password authentication on leaves users vulnerable Resent-From: Christopher Lemmer Webber Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-guix@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2020 13:50:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 44808 X-GNU-PR-Package: guix X-GNU-PR-Keywords: security To: Mark H Weaver Received: via spool by 44808-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B44808.160743535421818 (code B ref 44808); Tue, 08 Dec 2020 13:50:01 +0000 Received: (at 44808) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Dec 2020 13:49:14 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56905 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kmdMg-0005fq-Ej for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 08 Dec 2020 08:49:14 -0500 Received: from dustycloud.org ([50.116.34.160]:56182) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kmdMe-0005fi-Vv for 44808@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 08 Dec 2020 08:49:13 -0500 Received: from twig (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dustycloud.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 36BDB26679; Tue, 8 Dec 2020 08:49:12 -0500 (EST) References: <878sat3rnn.fsf@dustycloud.org> <874klgybbs.fsf@zancanaro.id.au> <87im9w2gjt.fsf@dustycloud.org> <87im9nmr5u.fsf@gmail.com> <87eek45lpg.fsf@gnu.org> <87k0twkt9c.fsf@dustycloud.org> <87sg8hzvdx.fsf@gnu.org> <87a6upepwb.fsf@web.de> <87sg8hlfyu.fsf@dustycloud.org> <871rg1e6js.fsf@web.de> <87im9ddy0r.fsf@netris.org> User-agent: mu4e 1.4.13; emacs 27.1 From: Christopher Lemmer Webber In-reply-to: <87im9ddy0r.fsf@netris.org> Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2020 08:48:34 -0500 Message-ID: <87ft4ge7d9.fsf@dustycloud.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-guix@gnu.org List-Id: Bug reports for GNU Guix List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: maxim.cournoyer@gmail.com, 44808@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: bug-guix-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "bug-Guix" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -2.30 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of bug-guix-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=bug-guix-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: C1EBD9402C8 X-Spam-Score: -2.30 X-Migadu-Scanner: ns3122888.ip-94-23-21.eu X-TUID: Qc5AHP5hdy24 Mark H Weaver writes: > Hi, > > "Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide" writes: >> To nudge them to secure their system, guix system reconfigure could emit >> a warning that this is a potential security risk that requires setting >> an explicit value (password yes or no) to silence. > > I think this is a good idea. Likewise, in the Guix installer, I would > favor asking the user whether or not to enable password authentication, > after warning them that it is a security risk. > > I agree with Chris that password authentication is a significant > security risk, but I also worry that if we simply disable it, it will > catch some users by surprise and they may be quite unhappy about it. > > Regards, > Mark It's clear that quite a few people are unhappy with switching the default, fearing lockout. I'm fine with making the above compromise given all that, personally.