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* bug#44678: Set a Firefox user agent for our Icecat build
@ 2020-11-16  6:17 Arun Isaac
  2021-08-05  3:22 ` Maxim Cournoyer
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: Arun Isaac @ 2020-11-16  6:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 44678


Hi,

Many sites---jitsi among many others---don't work properly when they see
an Icecat user agent. Instead, when the user agent is set to a Firefox
user agent, these sites work as expected. Users can do this manually by
installing user agent switching extensions such as uaswitcher, but it
would be much better if our Icecat package, by default, came with a
Firefox user agent, and everything worked normally without any user
intervention.

This bug report arose out of a discussion on help-guix. See
https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/help-guix/2020-11/msg00082.html

I would normally volunteer a patch, but building Icecat takes too long
(> 24 hours) on my slow computer. It would be nice if someone with a
faster build machine handled this.

Thanks,
Arun




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* bug#44678: Set a Firefox user agent for our Icecat build
  2020-11-16  6:17 bug#44678: Set a Firefox user agent for our Icecat build Arun Isaac
@ 2021-08-05  3:22 ` Maxim Cournoyer
  2021-08-05  8:00   ` Efraim Flashner
  2021-08-16 18:21   ` Arun Isaac
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: Maxim Cournoyer @ 2021-08-05  3:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Arun Isaac; +Cc: 44678

Hi Arun,

Arun Isaac <arunisaac@systemreboot.net> writes:

> Hi,
>
> Many sites---jitsi among many others---don't work properly when they see
> an Icecat user agent. Instead, when the user agent is set to a Firefox
> user agent, these sites work as expected. Users can do this manually by
> installing user agent switching extensions such as uaswitcher, but it
> would be much better if our Icecat package, by default, came with a
> Firefox user agent, and everything worked normally without any user
> intervention.
>
> This bug report arose out of a discussion on help-guix. See
> https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/help-guix/2020-11/msg00082.html
>
> I would normally volunteer a patch, but building Icecat takes too long
> (> 24 hours) on my slow computer. It would be nice if someone with a
> faster build machine handled this.

I thought the default user agent was already that of Firefox for Windows
(!), purportedly to make it less unique (thus making fingerprinting of
browsers/users more difficult).

Isn't it the case?  I changed mine long ago so I don't remember (to
please some broken site).

Thank you,

Maxim




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* bug#44678: Set a Firefox user agent for our Icecat build
  2021-08-05  3:22 ` Maxim Cournoyer
@ 2021-08-05  8:00   ` Efraim Flashner
  2021-08-05 16:48     ` Maxim Cournoyer
  2021-08-16 18:21   ` Arun Isaac
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: Efraim Flashner @ 2021-08-05  8:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Maxim Cournoyer; +Cc: 44678

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On Wed, Aug 04, 2021 at 11:22:58PM -0400, Maxim Cournoyer wrote:
> Hi Arun,
> 
> Arun Isaac <arunisaac@systemreboot.net> writes:
> 
> > Hi,
> >
> > Many sites---jitsi among many others---don't work properly when they see
> > an Icecat user agent. Instead, when the user agent is set to a Firefox
> > user agent, these sites work as expected. Users can do this manually by
> > installing user agent switching extensions such as uaswitcher, but it
> > would be much better if our Icecat package, by default, came with a
> > Firefox user agent, and everything worked normally without any user
> > intervention.
> >
> > This bug report arose out of a discussion on help-guix. See
> > https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/help-guix/2020-11/msg00082.html
> >
> > I would normally volunteer a patch, but building Icecat takes too long
> > (> 24 hours) on my slow computer. It would be nice if someone with a
> > faster build machine handled this.
> 
> I thought the default user agent was already that of Firefox for Windows
> (!), purportedly to make it less unique (thus making fingerprinting of
> browsers/users more difficult).
> 
> Isn't it the case?  I changed mine long ago so I don't remember (to
> please some broken site).
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> Maxim

I remember a discussion forever ago about making the User-Agent Guix
specific but we ended up not going that way in order to try to provide
more anonymity. I don't believe I've changed my user agent ever, and
here's what I'm told mine is:

User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/78.0

If you want to experiment with it you can send a patch (and tag me) and
I'll build icecat locally and check it out and let you know how it goes.
Icecat builds fairly quickly for me.

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* bug#44678: Set a Firefox user agent for our Icecat build
  2021-08-05  8:00   ` Efraim Flashner
@ 2021-08-05 16:48     ` Maxim Cournoyer
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: Maxim Cournoyer @ 2021-08-05 16:48 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Efraim Flashner; +Cc: 44678-done

Hello,

Efraim Flashner <efraim@flashner.co.il> writes:

> On Wed, Aug 04, 2021 at 11:22:58PM -0400, Maxim Cournoyer wrote:
>> Hi Arun,
>> 
>> Arun Isaac <arunisaac@systemreboot.net> writes:
>> 
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > Many sites---jitsi among many others---don't work properly when they see
>> > an Icecat user agent. Instead, when the user agent is set to a Firefox
>> > user agent, these sites work as expected. Users can do this manually by
>> > installing user agent switching extensions such as uaswitcher, but it
>> > would be much better if our Icecat package, by default, came with a
>> > Firefox user agent, and everything worked normally without any user
>> > intervention.
>> >
>> > This bug report arose out of a discussion on help-guix. See
>> > https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/help-guix/2020-11/msg00082.html
>> >
>> > I would normally volunteer a patch, but building Icecat takes too long
>> > (> 24 hours) on my slow computer. It would be nice if someone with a
>> > faster build machine handled this.
>> 
>> I thought the default user agent was already that of Firefox for Windows
>> (!), purportedly to make it less unique (thus making fingerprinting of
>> browsers/users more difficult).
>> 
>> Isn't it the case?  I changed mine long ago so I don't remember (to
>> please some broken site).
>> 
>> Thank you,
>> 
>> Maxim
>
> I remember a discussion forever ago about making the User-Agent Guix
> specific but we ended up not going that way in order to try to provide
> more anonymity. I don't believe I've changed my user agent ever, and
> here's what I'm told mine is:
>
> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/78.0
>
> If you want to experiment with it you can send a patch (and tag me) and
> I'll build icecat locally and check it out and let you know how it goes.
> Icecat builds fairly quickly for me.

Thanks for the information.  I got curious and did some archeology in
the gnuzilla repository [0] and found the commit that made Windows NT user
agent string go away:

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
a25c630a21d78be6515648d8d65cf13fb633c3b5
Author:     Ruben Rodriguez <ruben@gnu.org>
AuthorDate: Thu Sep 13 20:47:06 2018 -0400
Commit:     Ruben Rodriguez <ruben@gnu.org>
CommitDate: Thu Sep 13 21:02:13 2018 -0400

Parent:     f70c9f0 Some customizations to the UI
Contained:  master
Follows:    v52.1.0 (21)
Precedes:   v60.2.0 (3)

Preserve Firefox as UserAgent

1 file changed, 8 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
makeicecat | 10 ++++++++--

modified   makeicecat
@@ -405,6 +405,11 @@ sed 's/mozilla-bin/icecat-bin/' -i build/unix/run-mozilla.sh
 
 find -type f | grep run-mozilla | xargs prename s/mozilla/icecat/
 
+# do not alter useragent/platform/oscpu/etc with fingerprinting countermeasure, it makes things worse
+sed '/ShouldResistFingerprinting/,/}/s/^/\/\//' -i ./netwerk/protocol/http/nsHttpHandler.cpp
+sed '/If fingerprinting resistance is on/,/}/s/^/\/\//' -i ./dom/base/Navigator.cpp
+
+# Leave user agent as Firefox
 sed "/MOZILLA_UAVERSION/ s:IceCat/:Firefox/:" -i netwerk/protocol/http/nsHttpHandler.cpp
 
 find . -name region.properties |xargs -i /bin/sed 's_https://www.mibbit.*__' -i {}
@@ -421,9 +426,9 @@ cat << EOF >> browser/app/profile/icecat.js
 // Set useragent to Firefox compatible
 //pref("general.useragent.compatMode.firefox",true);
 // Spoof the useragent to a generic one
-pref("general.useragent.compatMode.firefox",true);
+//pref("general.useragent.compatMode.icecat",true);
 // Spoof the useragent to a generic one
-pref("general.useragent.override", "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:${FFMAJOR}.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/${FFMAJOR}.0");
+//pref("general.useragent.override", "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:${FFMAJOR}.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/${FFMAJOR}.0");
 pref("general.appname.override", "Netscape");
 pref("general.appversion.override", "${FFMAJOR}.0");
 pref("general.buildID.override", "Gecko/20100101");
@@ -433,6 +438,7 @@ EOF
 
 cat << EOF >> browser/confvars.sh
 # IceCat settings
+MOZ_APP_UA_NAME=IceCat
 MOZ_APP_VENDOR=GNU
 MOZ_APP_VERSION=$FFVERSION
 MOZ_APP_PROFILE=mozilla/icecat
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

Closing.

Thanks,

Maxim

[0]  git://git.savannah.gnu.org/gnuzilla.git




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* bug#44678: Set a Firefox user agent for our Icecat build
  2021-08-05  3:22 ` Maxim Cournoyer
  2021-08-05  8:00   ` Efraim Flashner
@ 2021-08-16 18:21   ` Arun Isaac
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: Arun Isaac @ 2021-08-16 18:21 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Maxim Cournoyer; +Cc: 44678

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Hi Maxim,

> I thought the default user agent was already that of Firefox for Windows
> (!), purportedly to make it less unique (thus making fingerprinting of
> browsers/users more difficult).

Sorry, I'm replying rather late. I just disabled the "User-Agent
Switcher" addon in my Icecat, and found that the default user agent is
"Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/78.0". So, I guess this bug is addressed.

Thank you,
Arun

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