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From: Simon Tournier <zimon.toutoune@gmail.com>
To: Maxime Devos <maximedevos@telenet.be>
Cc: 67292@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#67292: emacs / emacs-transient collisions and bundling
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2023 21:53:02 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87fs0xpl1t.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <fa20a80b-608b-ec9b-2995-b0c4e865a9b0@telenet.be> (Maxime Devos's message of "Tue, 21 Nov 2023 19:01:56 +0100")

On mar., 21 nov. 2023 at 19:01, Maxime Devos <maximedevos@telenet.be> wrote:

> Yes, it is official, but the question was how the bundling is not a bug (and
> implicitly, whether it is bundling), not whether the bundling is official.

The bundling is not a bug because it is how Emacs is developed.  The
term “bundle“ – which would potentially imply being unbundled by Guix
packagers – is misleading.

Emacs maintainers grant some packages and make them part of Emacs as
builtin package; whatever where these packages are developed or if these
packages follow another release schedule than the Emacs release
schedule.  The section “New Modes and Packages in Emacs X.Y” of the NEWS
file for each release (NEWS.28, NEWS,27, etc.) lists such promoted
packages.  Please note that Emacs 29 introduces a “New user option
'package-install-upgrade-built-in'”, as mentioned in NEWS.

For instance, the packages widget.el or woman.el or many others were
initially developed outside the Savannah Emacs tree, then integrated
(being promoted builtin), and now the original development location is
gone – which means all the maintenance burden for these builtin packages
is now done by Emacs maintainers.

Once builtin, the code of a package distributed with GNU Emacs is
maintained by Emacs maintainers and fully part of GNU Emacs.

As explicitly commented in the header of transient.el that comes with
Emacs:

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
;;; transient.el --- Transient commands  -*- lexical-binding:t -*-

;; Copyright (C) 2018-2023 Free Software Foundation, Inc.

;; Author: Jonas Bernoulli <jonas@bernoul.li>
;; URL: https://github.com/magit/transient

[...]

;; This file is part of GNU Emacs.
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

The collision is a bug.  The report of bundled is not a bug.

Cheers,
simon




  reply	other threads:[~2023-11-23 15:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-11-19 22:44 bug#67292: emacs / emacs-transient collisions and bundling Maxime Devos
2023-11-20 10:22 ` Simon Tournier
2023-11-20 12:39   ` Maxime Devos
2023-11-20 12:42     ` Maxime Devos
2023-11-20 13:46     ` Simon Tournier
2023-11-21 18:01       ` Maxime Devos
2023-11-22 20:53         ` Simon Tournier [this message]
2023-11-28  1:47           ` Maxime Devos
2023-11-28  9:45             ` Simon Tournier
2023-11-28 11:15             ` Mekeor Melire
2023-11-23 14:17     ` Mekeor Melire
2023-11-28  0:58       ` Maxime Devos
2023-11-28 11:12         ` Mekeor Melire

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