From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp2 ([2001:41d0:8:6d80::]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms0.migadu.com with LMTPS id sGijG/YtZ2BHSgAAgWs5BA (envelope-from ) for ; Fri, 02 Apr 2021 16:45:10 +0200 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:8:6d80::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp2 with LMTPS id iIp9FfYtZ2AEVAAAB5/wlQ (envelope-from ) for ; Fri, 02 Apr 2021 14:45:10 +0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D951721688 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 2021 16:45:09 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost ([::1]:49084 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lSL2r-0003Le-2p for larch@yhetil.org; Fri, 02 Apr 2021 10:45:09 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:40092) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lSL2k-0003LQ-2U for bug-guix@gnu.org; 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aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of bug-guix-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=bug-guix-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -0.93 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of bug-guix-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=bug-guix-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: D951721688 X-Spam-Score: -0.93 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: rT5oXWmLZOjz Hello, Kei writes: > How are you able to tell (aside from looking at the command line arguments)? > I'm unable to distinguish the startup processes using Emacs on Debian and Guix > even if I install "etc/emacspeak.sh" as the startup script instead of > "run". On Debian, the voice kicks in after all the initial minibuffer information is displayed, i.e., it starts when it is actually ready. On Guix, see below. >> Here, the package spells out all configuration messages displayed on >> in the minibuffer. >> > > Unless I'm misunderstanding you, Emacspeak seems to do the same for me on > Debian. For example, it reads "Active processes exist?..." and so on when > exiting. Is this not proper behavior? It is, but I am speaking at the initial messages, when you start a fresh Emacs session. Regards, -- Nicolas Goaziou