* X.org licenses
@ 2013-02-26 21:45 Andreas Enge
2013-02-26 21:48 ` Andreas Enge
2013-02-26 22:00 ` Ludovic Courtès
0 siblings, 2 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Andreas Enge @ 2013-02-26 21:45 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: bug-guix
I started adding license information to the 184 packages in the X11
distribution, and did not get very far... There is a list of several very
similar licenses used, see
http://www.xfree86.org/current/LICENSE5.html
Number 5.11 is referred to as x11 in license.scm; is it okay to use x11 for
all others as well?
font-adobe-utopia-* has this strange license:
Permission to use, reproduce, display and distribute the listed typefaces
is hereby granted, provided that the Adobe Copyright notice appears in all
whole and partial copies of the software and that the following trademark
symbol and attribution appear in all unmodified copies of the software:
Copyright (c) 1989 Adobe Systems Incorporated
Utopia (R)
Utopia is a registered trademark of Adobe Systems Incorporated
The Adobe typefaces (Type 1 font program, bitmaps and Adobe Font Metric
files) donated are:
Utopia Regular
Utopia Italic
Utopia Bold
Utopia Bold Italic
There is no explicit permission to modify the fonts. On the other hand, the
sentence speaking of "umodified copies" seems to imply that modified copies
may also be distributed.
The license of font-bh-* has the same ambiguity as far as modification is
concerned:
This is the LEGAL NOTICE pertaining to the Lucida fonts from Bigelow &
Holmes:
NOTICE TO USER: The source code, including the glyphs or icons
forming a par of the OPEN LOOK TM Graphic User Interface, on this
tape and in these files is copyrighted under U.S. and international
laws. Sun Microsystems, Inc. of Mountain View, California owns
the copyright and has design patents pending on many of the icons.
AT&T is the owner of the OPEN LOOK trademark associated with the
materials on this tape. Users and possessors of this source code
are hereby granted a nonexclusive, royalty-free copyright and
design patent license to use this code in individual and
commercial software. A royalty-free, nonexclusive trademark
license to refer to the code and output as "OPEN LOOK" compatible
is available from AT&T if, and only if, the appearance of the
icons or glyphs is not changed in any manner except as absolutely
necessary to accommodate the standard resolution of the screen or
other output device, the code and output is not changed except as
authorized herein, and the code and output is validated by AT&T.
Bigelow & Holmes is the owner of the Lucida (R) trademark for the
fonts and bit-mapped images associated with the materials on this
tape. Users are granted a royalty-free, nonexclusive license to use
the trademark only to identify the fonts and bit-mapped images if,
and only if, the fonts and bit-mapped images are not modified in any
way by the user.
Any use of this source code must include, in the user documentation
and internal comments to the code, notices to the end user as
follows:
(c) Copyright 1989 Sun Microsystems, Inc. Sun design patents
pending in the U.S. and foreign countries. OPEN LOOK is a
trademark of AT&T. Used by written permission of the owners.
(c) Copyright Bigelow & Holmes 1986, 1985. Lucida is a registered
trademark of Bigelow & Holmes. Permission to use the Lucida
trademark is hereby granted only in association with the images
and fonts described in this file.
SUN MICROSYSTEMS, INC., AT&T, AND BIGELOW & HOLMES
MAKE NO REPRESENTATIONS ABOUT THE SUITABILITY OF
THIS SOURCE CODE FOR ANY PURPOSE. IT IS PROVIDED "AS IS"
WITHOUT EXPRESS OR IMPLIED WARRANTY OF ANY KIND.
SUN MICROSYSTEMS, INC., AT&T AND BIGELOW & HOLMES,
SEVERALLY AND INDIVIDUALLY, DISCLAIM ALL WARRANTIES
WITH REGARD TO THIS SOURCE CODE, INCLUDING ALL IMPLIED
WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY AND FITNESS FOR A
PARTICULAR PURPOSE. IN NO EVENT SHALL SUN MICROSYSTEMS,
INC., AT&T OR BIGELOW & HOLMES BE LIABLE FOR ANY
SPECIAL, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, OR CONSEQUENTIAL DAMAGES,
OR ANY DAMAGES WHATSOEVER RESULTING FROM LOSS OF USE, DATA
OR PROFITS, WHETHER IN AN ACTION OF CONTRACT, NEGLIGENCE
OR OTHER TORTIOUS ACTION, ARISING OUT OF OR IN CONNECTION
WITH THE USE OR PERFORMANCE OF THIS SOURCE CODE.
What do you think? Do trisquel and gnewsense distribute all files from
x.org?
Andreas
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* Re: X.org licenses
2013-02-26 21:45 X.org licenses Andreas Enge
@ 2013-02-26 21:48 ` Andreas Enge
2013-02-26 21:55 ` Andreas Enge
2013-02-26 22:00 ` Ludovic Courtès
1 sibling, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Andreas Enge @ 2013-02-26 21:48 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: bug-guix
Worst of all so far:
font-daewoo-misc has the following COPYING:
"Copyright (c) 1987, 1988 Daewoo Electronics Co.,Ltd."
!!!
Andreas
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* Re: X.org licenses
2013-02-26 21:45 X.org licenses Andreas Enge
2013-02-26 21:48 ` Andreas Enge
@ 2013-02-26 22:00 ` Ludovic Courtès
2013-02-26 22:20 ` Andreas Enge
1 sibling, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Ludovic Courtès @ 2013-02-26 22:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Andreas Enge; +Cc: bug-guix
Andreas Enge <andreas@enge.fr> skribis:
> I started adding license information to the 184 packages in the X11
> distribution, and did not get very far... There is a list of several very
> similar licenses used, see
> http://www.xfree86.org/current/LICENSE5.html
>
> Number 5.11 is referred to as x11 in license.scm; is it okay to use x11 for
> all others as well?
I would say so, yes.
> font-adobe-utopia-* has this strange license:
>
> Permission to use, reproduce, display and distribute the listed typefaces
> is hereby granted, provided that the Adobe Copyright notice appears in all
> whole and partial copies of the software and that the following trademark
> symbol and attribution appear in all unmodified copies of the software:
> Copyright (c) 1989 Adobe Systems Incorporated
> Utopia (R)
> Utopia is a registered trademark of Adobe Systems Incorporated
> The Adobe typefaces (Type 1 font program, bitmaps and Adobe Font Metric
> files) donated are:
> Utopia Regular
> Utopia Italic
> Utopia Bold
> Utopia Bold Italic
>
> There is no explicit permission to modify the fonts. On the other hand, the
> sentence speaking of "umodified copies" seems to imply that modified copies
> may also be distributed.
>
> The license of font-bh-* has the same ambiguity as far as modification is
> concerned:
>
> This is the LEGAL NOTICE pertaining to the Lucida fonts from Bigelow &
> Holmes:
The <http://libreplanet.org/wiki/Software_blacklist> lists Lucida as
non-free, but does not mention the others. So I guess Utopia is OK, but
Lucida is not.
> Worst of all so far:
> font-daewoo-misc has the following COPYING:
>
> "Copyright (c) 1987, 1988 Daewoo Electronics Co.,Ltd."
If there’s nothing else written, then it’s definitely non-free.
Thanks for the investigation!
Ludo’.
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* Re: X.org licenses
2013-02-26 22:00 ` Ludovic Courtès
@ 2013-02-26 22:20 ` Andreas Enge
2013-02-26 22:25 ` Andreas Enge
2013-02-26 22:53 ` Ludovic Courtès
0 siblings, 2 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Andreas Enge @ 2013-02-26 22:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Ludovic Courtès; +Cc: bug-guix
Here is what the description of xfonts-scalable in debian says:
This package is missing three fonts from the X.Org source archives
because the license terms on the fonts do not meet the Debian Free
Software Guidelines; they are the Type1 fonts Adobe Utopia, IBM Courier,
and Bigelow & Holmes (B&H) Luxi.
So I will drop Utopia also and go through all the licenses.
I reserve the right to err, however. For instance, font-bitstream-*dpi
looks almost x11, except for the three words "and without fee", which make
them non-free. On the other hand, font-bitstream-type1 has a different
license, although as far as I can tell, it contains the same typeface in a
different format...
Andreas
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* Re: X.org licenses
2013-02-26 22:20 ` Andreas Enge
@ 2013-02-26 22:25 ` Andreas Enge
2013-02-26 22:53 ` Ludovic Courtès
1 sibling, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Andreas Enge @ 2013-02-26 22:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Ludovic Courtès; +Cc: bug-guix
Am Dienstag, 26. Februar 2013 schrieb Andreas Enge:
> I reserve the right to err, however. For instance, font-bitstream-*dpi
> looks almost x11, except for the three words "and without fee", which
> make them non-free.
Ah, sorry, we had these before. This is part of the MIT license; I would
still think it is non-free, but apparently it is generally accepted.
However, "these glyphs are unencumbered" does not qualify as a license, I
think...
Andreas
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* Re: X.org licenses
2013-02-26 22:20 ` Andreas Enge
2013-02-26 22:25 ` Andreas Enge
@ 2013-02-26 22:53 ` Ludovic Courtès
1 sibling, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Ludovic Courtès @ 2013-02-26 22:53 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Andreas Enge; +Cc: bug-guix
Andreas Enge <andreas@enge.fr> skribis:
> Here is what the description of xfonts-scalable in debian says:
> This package is missing three fonts from the X.Org source archives
> because the license terms on the fonts do not meet the Debian Free
> Software Guidelines; they are the Type1 fonts Adobe Utopia, IBM Courier,
> and Bigelow & Holmes (B&H) Luxi.
>
> So I will drop Utopia also and go through all the licenses.
OK, sounds reasonable.
Ludo’.
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