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From: ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic Courtès)
To: "Thompson, David" <dthompson2@worcester.edu>
Cc: 23605@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#23605: /dev/urandom not seeded across reboots
Date: Wed, 25 May 2016 23:53:33 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87a8jd9542.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJ=Rwfb0gqA757c5hPXtcNEaT5dOa-Rowp+sf-mQwdT+oLHP=g@mail.gmail.com> (David Thompson's message of "Tue, 24 May 2016 12:26:29 -0400")

"Thompson, David" <dthompson2@worcester.edu> skribis:

> On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 12:16 PM, Leo Famulari <leo@famulari.name> wrote:

[...]

>> When I boot a GuixSD VM for the first time [0], it requires me to dance
>> on the keyboard until it has collected ~200 bits of entropy. I assumed
>> this is to properly bootstrap the CSPRNG in /dev/urandom, but I'm not
>> sure.
>
> This is just an annoying feature of GNU lsh.  I want to switch my
> machines to OpenSSH sometime, partly due to this.

It’s actually ‘lsh-make-seed’ that does that (info "(lsh)
lsh-make-seed"), and it’s invoked from our ‘lsh-service’ when
#:initialize? is #t (the default).

It’s possible to set #:initialize? to #f, but then you still need to
create (or provide) the random seed at some point.  At the time people
felt that having it default to #t would be less surprising.

> It impedes automated provisioning of servers, which OpenSSH does not do.

Maybe OpenSSH assumes that the kernel-provided randomness is good
enough?

Ludo’.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-05-25 21:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-05-23 17:58 bug#23605: /dev/urandom not seeded across reboots Leo Famulari
2016-05-24  7:05 ` Taylan Ulrich Bayırlı/Kammer
2016-05-24 16:16   ` Leo Famulari
2016-05-24 16:26     ` Thompson, David
2016-05-24 17:23       ` Leo Famulari
2016-05-24 17:29         ` Thompson, David
2016-05-25 21:53       ` Ludovic Courtès [this message]
2016-05-24 12:24 ` Ludovic Courtès
2016-05-25 16:38   ` Leo Famulari
2016-05-25 16:54     ` Ludovic Courtès
2016-05-26 16:47       ` Leo Famulari
2016-05-28 13:57         ` Ludovic Courtès
2016-05-28 18:05           ` Leo Famulari
2016-05-28 18:10             ` Leo Famulari
2016-05-28 18:26             ` Leo Famulari
2016-05-28 20:41               ` Leo Famulari
2016-05-28 20:53             ` Ludovic Courtès
2016-05-29  0:00               ` Leo Famulari
2016-05-29  0:04                 ` Leo Famulari
2016-05-29 20:23                 ` Ludovic Courtès
2016-05-28  1:12   ` Leo Famulari
2016-05-28 13:51     ` Ludovic Courtès
2016-05-28  1:05 ` Leo Famulari
2016-05-28  1:11   ` Ben Woodcroft
2016-05-28  1:45     ` Leo Famulari
2016-05-28  9:40       ` Ben Woodcroft

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