Hi everyone, Chris Marusich writes: > If you examine the derivations and their inputs, you'll find that they > depend upon each other in the following order: > > guix build --target=powerpc64-linux-gnu -d -e '(@ (gnu packages make-bootstrap) %gcc-bootstrap-tarball)' > /gnu/store/pygln3lr6qbxcps3kmn3w4bc0d0nlpd3-gcc-stripped-tarball-5.5.0.drv > > guix build --target=powerpc64-linux-gnu -d -e '(@@ (gnu packages make-bootstrap) %gcc-stripped)' > /gnu/store/kcv3ja1rfr93hw6ly51878zjhdwpgv7z-gcc-stripped-5.5.0.drv > > guix build --target=powerpc64-linux-gnu -d -e '(@@ (gnu packages make-bootstrap) %gcc-static)' > /gnu/store/m9hfwppla8lph0vxa15lfkp81s2bbjjs-gcc-static-5.5.0.drv > > In other words, gcc-static-5.5.0.drv is an input of > gcc-stripped-5.5.0.drv, which is an input of > gcc-stripped-tarball-5.5.0.drv. Above, I've included example guix > commands you can use to obtain each derivation. Using "guix build > --check", I confirmed that all three of these derivations build > reproducibly on my machine. After further experimentation, I've discovered that %gcc-static, when built as shown above (without the -d option, of course), produces different output on Debian than on Fedora. Specifically, the %gcc-static output contains a file named libstdc++.a. This file is an archive file. Although its members are content-identical in the case of Fedora and Debian, the order of the members in the archive differs. Because the exact same inputs were used, it seems very likely that a difference in the Guix build environment caused the %gcc-static build logic to order the members of libstdc++.a differently. I built %gcc-static using Guix commit a02b2f8b86c0227eb69aa24b4373aef456365334. Both Debian and Fedora were x86_64-linux systems. I took the following steps to make absolutely certain that the exact same inputs were used on Debian and Fedora: - I provisioned two fresh EC2 instances (Debian and Fedora). - I installed Guix on Debian. - I did "guix pull" on Debian to get to the aforementioned commit. - I built %gcc-static on Debian as indicated above. - I manually copied the Guix store and the Guix database from Debian to Fedora. - I manually fixed up Fedora so it could run Guix (I created the guix users, added a systemd unit file, disabled selinux, etc.). - I manually verified the Guix version and the store contents were identical on Fedora and Debian. - I GC'd %gcc-static (and nothing else) on Fedora. - I rebuilt %gcc-static on Fedora. - I compared the Fedora %gcc-static output to the Debian %gcc-static output. The %gcc-static package uses GCC 5.5.0 as its source. I got a copy of the GCC 5.5.0 source code, and I looked at it. However, it's complex. I can't pinpoint where they actually build the libstdc++.a file. Can anyone point me to the code that does this in the GCC 5.5.0 source? I expected to find the logic hiding in a makefile or a configure script or something, but I haven't found it yet. Since this is an old GCC, it is possible that this was a known reproducibility bug which has since been fixed. I haven't looked into that possibility yet. If that's the case, though, it would be nice because we could simply backport a fix. -- Chris