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However, when it is currently not, the implicit rule is to not > break backward compatibility. That=E2=80=99s the whole point. :-) > > We need to be very cautious when we change the API; even when it is for > fixing an inconsistency. Agreed; if the current behavior really provides well outlined benefits, we could always introduce a "--order-sensitive" option for its users. --=20 Thanks, Maxim