From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic =?UTF-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?=) Subject: bug#18571: dmesg please Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2014 22:31:10 +0200 Message-ID: <878uktvt2p.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87h9ztidsh.fsf@gnu.org> <1412616635.10607@bluehome.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:49268) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XbEx2-0000fe-7x for bug-guix@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Oct 2014 16:32:19 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XbEws-0003Pi-M9 for bug-guix@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Oct 2014 16:32:12 -0400 Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:44458) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XbEws-0003Pe-G0 for bug-guix@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Oct 2014 16:32:02 -0400 Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XbEwr-0005AB-Uc for bug-guix@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Oct 2014 16:32:02 -0400 Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <1412616635.10607@bluehome.net> (Jason Self's message of "Mon, 06 Oct 2014 10:30:35 -0700 (PDT)") List-Id: Bug reports for GNU Guix List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-guix-bounces+gcggb-bug-guix=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: bug-guix-bounces+gcggb-bug-guix=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Jason Self Cc: 18571@debbugs.gnu.org Here=E2=80=99s an excerpt from dmesg: --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- [ 5.680537] snd_hda_intel 0000:00:1b.0: irq 46 for MSI/MSI-X [ 5.689448] sound hdaudioC0D0: No codec parser is available [ 5.689646] sound hdaudioC0D3: No codec parser is available --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- Then, when I do the rmmod/modprobe/udevadm dance I described, I see: --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- [12995.487160] snd_hda_intel 0000:00:1b.0: irq 46 for MSI/MSI-X [12995.488900] Error: Driver 'pcspkr' is already registered, aborting... [12995.496208] sound hdaudioC0D0: autoconfig: line_outs=3D1 (0xe/0x0/0x0/0x= 0/0x0) type:line [12995.496213] sound hdaudioC0D0: speaker_outs=3D1 (0xd/0x0/0x0/0x0/0x0) [12995.496216] sound hdaudioC0D0: hp_outs=3D1 (0xb/0x0/0x0/0x0/0x0) [12995.496218] sound hdaudioC0D0: mono: mono_out=3D0x0 [12995.496220] sound hdaudioC0D0: inputs: [12995.496222] sound hdaudioC0D0: Dock Mic=3D0xf [12995.496225] sound hdaudioC0D0: Internal Mic=3D0x11 [12995.496227] sound hdaudioC0D0: Mic=3D0xa [12995.500750] sound hdaudioC0D3: ignore pin 0x7, too many assigned pins [12995.500755] sound hdaudioC0D3: autoconfig: line_outs=3D0 (0x0/0x0/0x0/0x= 0/0x0) type:line [12995.500757] sound hdaudioC0D3: speaker_outs=3D0 (0x0/0x0/0x0/0x0/0x0) [12995.500760] sound hdaudioC0D3: hp_outs=3D0 (0x0/0x0/0x0/0x0/0x0) [12995.500762] sound hdaudioC0D3: mono: mono_out=3D0x0 [12995.500764] sound hdaudioC0D3: dig-out=3D0x5/0x6 [12995.500766] sound hdaudioC0D3: inputs: [12995.528202] input: HDA Intel PCH Dock Mic as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00= :1b.0/sound/card0/input13 [12995.528250] input: HDA Intel PCH Mic as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1b.0= /sound/card0/input14 [12995.528304] input: HDA Intel PCH Dock Line Out as /devices/pci0000:00/00= 00:00:1b.0/sound/card0/input15 [12995.528346] input: HDA Intel PCH Headphone as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:0= 0:1b.0/sound/card0/input16 [12995.528385] input: HDA Intel PCH HDMI as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1b.= 0/sound/card0/input17 [12995.528425] input: HDA Intel PCH HDMI as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1b.= 0/sound/card0/input18 --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- An additional data point: --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- $ cat /proc/asound/card0/codec\#* Codec: IDT 92HD90BXX Address: 0 AFG Function Id: 0x1 (unsol 1) Vendor Id: 0x111d76e7 Subsystem Id: 0x10280492 Revision Id: 0x100102 No Modem Function Group found Default PCM: rates [0x5e0]: 44100 48000 88200 96000 192000 bits [0xe]: 16 20 24 formats [0x1]: PCM Default Amp-In caps: ofs=3D0x00, nsteps=3D0x03, stepsize=3D0x27, mute=3D0 Default Amp-Out caps: ofs=3D0x7f, nsteps=3D0x7f, stepsize=3D0x02, mute=3D1 State of AFG node 0x01: Power states: D0 D1 D2 D3 D3cold S3D3cold CLKSTOP EPSS Power: setting=3DD0, actual=3DD0 GPIO: io=3D5, o=3D0, i=3D0, unsolicited=3D1, wake=3D1 IO[0]: enable=3D0, dir=3D0, wake=3D0, sticky=3D0, data=3D0, unsol=3D0 IO[1]: enable=3D0, dir=3D0, wake=3D0, sticky=3D0, data=3D0, unsol=3D0 IO[2]: enable=3D0, dir=3D0, wake=3D0, sticky=3D0, data=3D0, unsol=3D0 IO[3]: enable=3D0, dir=3D0, wake=3D0, sticky=3D0, data=3D0, unsol=3D0 IO[4]: enable=3D0, dir=3D0, wake=3D0, sticky=3D0, data=3D0, unsol=3D0 Power-Map: 0x75 Node 0x0a [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x400583: Stereo Amp-In Control: name=3D"Mic Boost Volume", index=3D0, device=3D0 ControlAmp: chs=3D3, dir=3DIn, idx=3D0, ofs=3D0 Control: name=3D"Mic Jack", index=3D0, device=3D0 Amp-In caps: N/A Amp-In vals: [0x00 0x00] Pincap 0x0001173c: IN OUT HP EAPD Detect Vref caps: HIZ 50 GRD 80 EAPD 0x2: EAPD Pin Default 0x03a11020: [Jack] Mic at Ext Left Conn =3D 1/8, Color =3D Black DefAssociation =3D 0x2, Sequence =3D 0x0 Pin-ctls: 0x24: IN VREF_80 Unsolicited: tag=3D04, enabled=3D1 Power states:=20 Power: setting=3DD0, actual=3DD0 Connection: 3 0x13* 0x14 0x1c Node 0x0b [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x400581: Stereo Control: name=3D"Headphone Jack", index=3D0, device=3D0 Pincap 0x0001001c: OUT HP EAPD Detect EAPD 0x2: EAPD Pin Default 0x0321101f: [Jack] HP Out at Ext Left Conn =3D 1/8, Color =3D Black DefAssociation =3D 0x1, Sequence =3D 0xf Pin-ctls: 0xc0: OUT HP Unsolicited: tag=3D01, enabled=3D1 Power states:=20 Power: setting=3DD0, actual=3DD0 Connection: 3 0x13 0x14* 0x1c Node 0x0c [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x400583: Stereo Amp-In Amp-In caps: N/A Amp-In vals: [0x00 0x00] Pincap 0x00010034: IN OUT EAPD Detect EAPD 0x2: EAPD Pin Default 0x400000f0: [N/A] Line Out at Ext N/A Conn =3D Unknown, Color =3D Unknown DefAssociation =3D 0xf, Sequence =3D 0x0 Pin-ctls: 0x00: Unsolicited: tag=3D00, enabled=3D0 Power states:=20 Power: setting=3DD3, actual=3DD3 Connection: 3 0x13* 0x14 0x1c Node 0x0d [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x400501: Stereo Control: name=3D"Speaker Phantom Jack", index=3D0, device=3D0 Pincap 0x00010050: OUT EAPD Balanced EAPD 0x2: EAPD Pin Default 0x90170110: [Fixed] Speaker at Int N/A Conn =3D Analog, Color =3D Unknown DefAssociation =3D 0x1, Sequence =3D 0x0 Misc =3D NO_PRESENCE Pin-ctls: 0x00: Power states:=20 Power: setting=3DD0, actual=3DD0 Connection: 3 0x13* 0x14 0x1c Node 0x0e [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x400581: Stereo Control: name=3D"Dock Line Out Jack", index=3D0, device=3D0 Pincap 0x0001001c: OUT HP EAPD Detect EAPD 0x2: EAPD Pin Default 0x23011050: [Jack] Line Out at Sep Left Conn =3D 1/8, Color =3D Black DefAssociation =3D 0x5, Sequence =3D 0x0 Pin-ctls: 0x00: Unsolicited: tag=3D02, enabled=3D1 Power states:=20 Power: setting=3DD0, actual=3DD0 Connection: 3 0x13* 0x14 0x1c Node 0x0f [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x400483: Stereo Amp-In Control: name=3D"Dock Mic Boost Volume", index=3D0, device=3D0 ControlAmp: chs=3D3, dir=3DIn, idx=3D0, ofs=3D0 Control: name=3D"Dock Mic Jack", index=3D0, device=3D0 Amp-In caps: N/A Amp-In vals: [0x00 0x00] Pincap 0x00000024: IN Detect Pin Default 0x23a1102e: [Jack] Mic at Sep Left Conn =3D 1/8, Color =3D Black DefAssociation =3D 0x2, Sequence =3D 0xe Pin-ctls: 0x20: IN Unsolicited: tag=3D03, enabled=3D1 Power states:=20 Power: setting=3DD0, actual=3DD0 Node 0x10 [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x400500: Mono Pincap 0x00000010: OUT Pin Default 0x400000f3: [N/A] Line Out at Ext N/A Conn =3D Unknown, Color =3D Unknown DefAssociation =3D 0xf, Sequence =3D 0x3 Pin-ctls: 0x00: Power states:=20 Power: setting=3DD3, actual=3DD3 Connection: 1 0x1a Node 0x11 [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x400483: Stereo Amp-In Control: name=3D"Internal Mic Boost Volume", index=3D0, device=3D0 ControlAmp: chs=3D3, dir=3DIn, idx=3D0, ofs=3D0 Control: name=3D"Internal Mic Phantom Jack", index=3D0, device=3D0 Amp-In caps: N/A Amp-In vals: [0x00 0x00] Pincap 0x00000024: IN Detect Pin Default 0xd5a30130: [Both] Mic at Int Top Conn =3D ATAPI, Color =3D Unknown DefAssociation =3D 0x3, Sequence =3D 0x0 Misc =3D NO_PRESENCE Pin-ctls: 0x20: IN Unsolicited: tag=3D00, enabled=3D0 Power states:=20 Power: setting=3DD0, actual=3DD0 Node 0x12 [Vendor Defined Widget] wcaps 0xf00503: Stereo Amp-In Amp-In caps: N/A Amp-In vals: [0x00 0x00] Power states:=20 Power: setting=3DD0, actual=3DD0 Connection: 1 0x20 Node 0x13 [Audio Output] wcaps 0xd0c05: Stereo Amp-Out R/L Control: name=3D"PCM Playback Volume", index=3D0, device=3D0 ControlAmp: chs=3D3, dir=3DOut, idx=3D0, ofs=3D0 Control: name=3D"PCM Playback Switch", index=3D0, device=3D0 ControlAmp: chs=3D3, dir=3DOut, idx=3D0, ofs=3D0 Device: name=3D"92HD90BXX Analog", type=3D"Audio", device=3D0 Amp-Out caps: N/A Amp-Out vals: [0x63 0x63] Converter: stream=3D8, channel=3D0 Power states:=20 Power: setting=3DD0, actual=3DD0 Delay: 13 samples Node 0x14 [Audio Output] wcaps 0xd0c05: Stereo Amp-Out R/L Control: name=3D"Headphone Playback Volume", index=3D0, device=3D0 ControlAmp: chs=3D3, dir=3DOut, idx=3D0, ofs=3D0 Control: name=3D"Headphone Playback Switch", index=3D0, device=3D0 ControlAmp: chs=3D3, dir=3DOut, idx=3D0, ofs=3D0 Amp-Out caps: N/A Amp-Out vals: [0x63 0x63] Converter: stream=3D8, channel=3D0 Power states:=20 Power: setting=3DD0, actual=3DD0 Delay: 13 samples Node 0x15 [Audio Input] wcaps 0x1d0541: Stereo Device: name=3D"92HD90BXX Analog", type=3D"Audio", device=3D0 Converter: stream=3D0, channel=3D0 SDI-Select: 0 Power states:=20 Power: setting=3DD0, actual=3DD0 Delay: 13 samples Connection: 1 0x17 Processing caps: benign=3D0, ncoeff=3D0 Node 0x16 [Audio Input] wcaps 0x1d0541: Stereo Converter: stream=3D0, channel=3D0 SDI-Select: 0 Power states:=20 Power: setting=3DD3, actual=3DD3 Delay: 13 samples Connection: 1 0x18 Processing caps: benign=3D0, ncoeff=3D0 Node 0x17 [Audio Selector] wcaps 0x300d0d: Stereo Amp-Out R/L Control: name=3D"Capture Volume", index=3D0, device=3D0 ControlAmp: chs=3D3, dir=3DOut, idx=3D0, ofs=3D0 Control: name=3D"Capture Switch", index=3D0, device=3D0 ControlAmp: chs=3D3, dir=3DOut, idx=3D0, ofs=3D0 Amp-Out caps: ofs=3D0x10, nsteps=3D0x2e, stepsize=3D0x03, mute=3D1 Amp-Out vals: [0x0d 0x0d] Power states:=20 Power: setting=3DD0, actual=3DD0 Connection: 6 0x1b 0x0a 0x0c 0x0f 0x11* 0x12 Node 0x18 [Audio Selector] wcaps 0x300d0d: Stereo Amp-Out R/L Amp-Out caps: ofs=3D0x10, nsteps=3D0x2e, stepsize=3D0x03, mute=3D1 Amp-Out vals: [0x90 0x90] Power states:=20 Power: setting=3DD3, actual=3DD3 Connection: 6 0x1b* 0x0a 0x0c 0x0f 0x11 0x12 Node 0x19 [Audio Selector] wcaps 0x300501: Stereo Power states:=20 Power: setting=3DD3, actual=3DD3 Connection: 3 0x13* 0x14 0x1c Node 0x1a [Audio Mixer] wcaps 0x200500: Mono Power states:=20 Power: setting=3DD3, actual=3DD3 Connection: 1 0x19 Node 0x1b [Audio Mixer] wcaps 0x20050b: Stereo Amp-In Control: name=3D"Dock Mic Playback Volume", index=3D0, device=3D0 ControlAmp: chs=3D3, dir=3DIn, idx=3D4, ofs=3D0 Control: name=3D"Dock Mic Playback Switch", index=3D0, device=3D0 ControlAmp: chs=3D3, dir=3DIn, idx=3D4, ofs=3D0 Control: name=3D"Mic Playback Volume", index=3D0, device=3D0 ControlAmp: chs=3D3, dir=3DIn, idx=3D2, ofs=3D0 Control: name=3D"Mic Playback Switch", index=3D0, device=3D0 ControlAmp: chs=3D3, dir=3DIn, idx=3D2, ofs=3D0 Amp-In caps: ofs=3D0x17, nsteps=3D0x1f, stepsize=3D0x05, mute=3D1 Amp-In vals: [0x80 0x80] [0x80 0x80] [0x80 0x80] [0x80 0x80] [0x80 0x80] Power states:=20 Power: setting=3DD0, actual=3DD0 Connection: 5 0x13 0x14 0x0a 0x0c 0x0f Node 0x1c [Audio Selector] wcaps 0x30050d: Stereo Amp-Out Amp-Out caps: ofs=3D0x1f, nsteps=3D0x1f, stepsize=3D0x05, mute=3D1 Amp-Out vals: [0x80 0x80] Power states:=20 Power: setting=3DD3, actual=3DD3 Connection: 1 0x1b Node 0x1d [Audio Output] wcaps 0x4061d: Stereo Digital Amp-Out Amp-Out caps: ofs=3D0x00, nsteps=3D0x00, stepsize=3D0x00, mute=3D1 Amp-Out vals: [0x00 0x00] Converter: stream=3D0, channel=3D0 Digital: Digital category: 0x0 IEC Coding Type: 0x0 PCM: rates [0x5e0]: 44100 48000 88200 96000 192000 bits [0xe]: 16 20 24 formats [0x5]: PCM AC3 Power states:=20 Power: setting=3DD3, actual=3DD3 Delay: 4 samples Node 0x1e [Audio Output] wcaps 0x4061d: Stereo Digital Amp-Out Amp-Out caps: ofs=3D0x00, nsteps=3D0x00, stepsize=3D0x00, mute=3D1 Amp-Out vals: [0x00 0x00] Converter: stream=3D0, channel=3D0 Digital: Digital category: 0x0 IEC Coding Type: 0x0 PCM: rates [0x5e0]: 44100 48000 88200 96000 192000 bits [0xe]: 16 20 24 formats [0x5]: PCM AC3 Power states:=20 Power: setting=3DD3, actual=3DD3 Delay: 4 samples Node 0x1f [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x400781: Stereo Digital Pincap 0x00000014: OUT Detect Pin Default 0x400000f0: [N/A] Line Out at Ext N/A Conn =3D Unknown, Color =3D Unknown DefAssociation =3D 0xf, Sequence =3D 0x0 Pin-ctls: 0x00: Unsolicited: tag=3D00, enabled=3D0 Power states:=20 Power: setting=3DD3, actual=3DD3 Connection: 1 0x1d Node 0x20 [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x400781: Stereo Digital Pincap 0x00000034: IN OUT Detect Pin Default 0x400000f0: [N/A] Line Out at Ext N/A Conn =3D Unknown, Color =3D Unknown DefAssociation =3D 0xf, Sequence =3D 0x0 Pin-ctls: 0x00: Unsolicited: tag=3D00, enabled=3D0 Power states:=20 Power: setting=3DD3, actual=3DD3 Connection: 1 0x1e Node 0x21 [Beep Generator Widget] wcaps 0x70040c: Mono Amp-Out Control: name=3D"Beep Playback Switch", index=3D0, device=3D0 ControlAmp: chs=3D1, dir=3DOut, idx=3D0, ofs=3D0 Control: name=3D"Beep Playback Volume", index=3D0, device=3D0 ControlAmp: chs=3D1, dir=3DOut, idx=3D0, ofs=3D0 Amp-Out caps: ofs=3D0x03, nsteps=3D0x03, stepsize=3D0x17, mute=3D1 Amp-Out vals: [0x01] Power states:=20 Power: setting=3DD0, actual=3DD0 Node 0x22 [Vendor Defined Widget] wcaps 0xf00001: Stereo Codec: Intel ID 2805 Address: 3 AFG Function Id: 0x1 (unsol 0) Vendor Id: 0x80862805 Subsystem Id: 0x80860101 Revision Id: 0x100000 No Modem Function Group found Default PCM: rates [0x0]: bits [0x0]: formats [0x0]: Default Amp-In caps: N/A Default Amp-Out caps: N/A State of AFG node 0x01: Power states: D0 D3 CLKSTOP EPSS Power: setting=3DD0, actual=3DD0, Clock-stop-OK GPIO: io=3D0, o=3D0, i=3D0, unsolicited=3D0, wake=3D0 Node 0x02 [Audio Output] wcaps 0x6611: 8-Channels Digital Control: name=3D"IEC958 Playback Con Mask", index=3D0, device=3D0 Control: name=3D"IEC958 Playback Pro Mask", index=3D0, device=3D0 Control: name=3D"IEC958 Playback Default", index=3D0, device=3D0 Control: name=3D"IEC958 Playback Switch", index=3D0, device=3D0 Device: name=3D"ID 2805 Digital", type=3D"HDMI", device=3D3 Converter: stream=3D0, channel=3D0 Digital: Enabled Digital category: 0x0 IEC Coding Type: 0x0 PCM: rates [0x7f0]: 32000 44100 48000 88200 96000 176400 192000 bits [0x1e]: 16 20 24 32 formats [0x5]: PCM AC3 Power states: D0 D3 EPSS Power: setting=3DD0, actual=3DD0 Node 0x03 [Audio Output] wcaps 0x6611: 8-Channels Digital Converter: stream=3D0, channel=3D0 Digital: Enabled Digital category: 0x0 IEC Coding Type: 0x0 PCM: rates [0x7f0]: 32000 44100 48000 88200 96000 176400 192000 bits [0x1e]: 16 20 24 32 formats [0x5]: PCM AC3 Power states: D0 D3 EPSS Power: setting=3DD0, actual=3DD0 Node 0x04 [Audio Output] wcaps 0x6611: 8-Channels Digital Converter: stream=3D0, channel=3D0 Digital: Enabled Digital category: 0x0 IEC Coding Type: 0x0 PCM: rates [0x7f0]: 32000 44100 48000 88200 96000 176400 192000 bits [0x1e]: 16 20 24 32 formats [0x5]: PCM AC3 Power states: D0 D3 EPSS Power: setting=3DD0, actual=3DD0 Node 0x05 [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x40778d: 8-Channels Digital Amp-Out CP Control: name=3D"HDMI Jack", index=3D0, device=3D0 Amp-Out caps: ofs=3D0x00, nsteps=3D0x00, stepsize=3D0x00, mute=3D1 Amp-Out vals: [0x00 0x00] Pincap 0x09000094: OUT Detect HBR HDMI DP Pin Default 0x18560010: [Jack] Digital Out at Int HDMI Conn =3D Digital, Color =3D Unknown DefAssociation =3D 0x1, Sequence =3D 0x0 Pin-ctls: 0x40: OUT Unsolicited: tag=3D01, enabled=3D1 Power states: D0 D3 EPSS Power: setting=3DD0, actual=3DD0 Connection: 1 0x02 Node 0x06 [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x40778d: 8-Channels Digital Amp-Out CP Control: name=3D"HDMI Jack", index=3D1, device=3D0 Amp-Out caps: ofs=3D0x00, nsteps=3D0x00, stepsize=3D0x00, mute=3D1 Amp-Out vals: [0x00 0x00] Pincap 0x09000094: OUT Detect HBR HDMI DP Pin Default 0x18560020: [Jack] Digital Out at Int HDMI Conn =3D Digital, Color =3D Unknown DefAssociation =3D 0x2, Sequence =3D 0x0 Pin-ctls: 0x40: OUT Unsolicited: tag=3D02, enabled=3D1 Power states: D0 D3 EPSS Power: setting=3DD0, actual=3DD0 Connection: 1 0x03 Node 0x07 [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x40778d: 8-Channels Digital Amp-Out CP Amp-Out caps: ofs=3D0x00, nsteps=3D0x00, stepsize=3D0x00, mute=3D1 Amp-Out vals: [0x00 0x80] Pincap 0x09000094: OUT Detect HBR HDMI DP Pin Default 0x18560030: [Jack] Digital Out at Int HDMI Conn =3D Digital, Color =3D Unknown DefAssociation =3D 0x3, Sequence =3D 0x0 Pin-ctls: 0x40: OUT Unsolicited: tag=3D00, enabled=3D0 Power states: D0 D3 EPSS Power: setting=3DD0, actual=3DD0 Connection: 1 0x04 Node 0x08 [Vendor Defined Widget] wcaps 0xf00000: Mono --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- HTH, Ludo=E2=80=99.