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From: Tobias Geerinckx-Rice via Bug reports for GNU Guix <bug-guix@gnu.org>
To: Mark H Weaver <mhw@netris.org>
Cc: ncdehnel@gmail.com, 43418@debbugs.gnu.org, leo@famulari.name
Subject: bug#43418: ffprobe/avprobe and ffmpeg/avconv should be added as dependencies of youtube-dl so it will function correctly
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2020 10:58:14 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <875z8ertcp.fsf@nckx> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87mu1q9lyw.fsf@netris.org>

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Leo, Mark,

Mark H Weaver 写道:
> Leo Famulari <leo@famulari.name> writes:
>
>> On Tue, Sep 15, 2020 at 02:06:11PM +0200, Tobias Geerinckx-Rice 
>> via Bug reports for GNU Guix wrote:
>>> Matters would be different if the error message were less 
>>> clear, or perhaps
>>> if ffmpeg weren't so insanely great:
>>> 
>>>  λ guix size youtube-dl | tail -n1
>>>  total: 186.9 MiB
>>>  λ guix size youtube-dl ffmpeg | tail -n1
>>>  total: 811.2 MiB
>>
>> I wonder, should we expect FFmpeg to already be referenced by 
>> somebody's
>> profile if they are using youtube-dl? VLC and mpv both depend 
>> on FFmpeg.
>> The use case of "download video and watch it on another machine 
>> (or
>> never watch it)" seems somewhat esoteric.

I don't see why my use case should be sidelined as ‘esoteric’. 
;-)

> However, in my recent experience, youtube usually provides the
> freedom-respecting formats only as separate audio and video 
> streams
> which must be recombined by youtube-dl, and in that case the 
> 'ffmpeg'
> command line tool seems to be required.

This is a good argument.  If including ffmpeg by default makes it 
easier to request & mux freeër formats, let's do that.

> I see two possible approaches: ffmpeg could be added to 
> youtube-dl's
> propagated-inputs, or it could be instead be added to 'inputs', 
> and we
> could substitute hardcoded paths to 'ffmpeg' in the built 
> 'youtube-dl'.
> I generally tend to favor the latter approach, but there are 
> valid
> arguments for each approach and I don't feel strongly about it.

Which advantages does the former have?  I wasn't aware of any.

Thanks!

T G-R

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  reply	other threads:[~2020-09-16  8:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-09-15 11:27 bug#43418: ffprobe/avprobe and ffmpeg/avconv should be added as dependencies of youtube-dl so it will function correctly Nathan Dehnel
2020-09-15 12:06 ` Tobias Geerinckx-Rice via Bug reports for GNU Guix
2020-09-15 19:34   ` raingloom
2020-09-15 23:52     ` Nathan Dehnel
2020-09-15 23:17   ` Leo Famulari
2020-09-16  8:14     ` Mark H Weaver
2020-09-16  8:58       ` Tobias Geerinckx-Rice via Bug reports for GNU Guix [this message]
2020-09-16 11:30         ` Mark H Weaver
2020-09-16  9:54 ` bug#43418: [PATCH] gnu: youtube-dl: Refer to ffmpeg Tobias Geerinckx-Rice via Bug reports for GNU Guix
2020-09-16 11:31   ` Mark H Weaver
2020-09-16 11:54     ` Tobias Geerinckx-Rice via Bug reports for GNU Guix
2020-09-16 12:07       ` zimoun

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