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From: Vagrant Cascadian <vagrant@debian.org>
To: Csepp <raingloom@riseup.net>
Cc: 64775@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#64775: /run should be cleaned on boot
Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2023 12:57:30 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <875y6dyr4l.fsf@wireframe> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87y1j9njij.fsf@riseup.net>

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On 2023-07-21, Csepp wrote:
> Vagrant Cascadian <vagrant@debian.org> writes:
>> While I know that Guix does not really follow the FHS in most respects,
>> maybe the intention of /run defined there should still be respected?
>>
>>   https://refspecs.linuxfoundation.org/FHS_3.0/fhs/ch03s15.html
>>
>>   3.15. /run : Run-time variable data
>>   3.15.1. Purpose
>>
>>   This directory contains system information data describing the system
>>   since it was booted. Files under this directory must be cleared
>>   (removed or truncated as appropriate) at the beginning of the boot
>>   process.
>>   ...
>>
>> Many distros implement this by having /run on a tmpfs, but making sure
>> to clean up /run at boot seems like a reasonable thing to do at the very
>> least.
>>
>> I am not sure if it makes sense to do housecleaning of /run from guix
>> system reconfigure ... as there may be legitimate uses for other
>> processes to write there.
...
> I vote for TMPFS, since that would also reduce flash wear.
> Honestly I don't get why it's not already using TMPFS.

One argument could be how much ram it takes:

  $ du -sc /run/*
  12      /run/blkid
  0       /run/booted-system
  0       /run/current-system
  1312    /run/setuid-programs
  524     /run/udev
  1848    total

That is with no explicit setuid programs configured, on a machine with a
fairly minimal configuration.

Not a *huge* amount of ram, but not nothing, either...

live well,
  vagrant

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  reply	other threads:[~2023-07-21 19:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-07-21 19:23 bug#64775: /run should be cleaned on boot Vagrant Cascadian
2023-07-21 19:36 ` Csepp
2023-07-21 19:57   ` Vagrant Cascadian [this message]
2023-07-21 20:24     ` Saku Laesvuori via Bug reports for GNU Guix
2023-08-06 13:18       ` Hilton Chain via Bug reports for GNU Guix
2023-08-06 20:06         ` Vagrant Cascadian
2023-08-07  1:33           ` Hilton Chain via Bug reports for GNU Guix
2023-08-07 14:39         ` Maxim Cournoyer
     [not found] <87r0uuehlr.fsf@nckx>
     [not found] ` <129e8d298556f6a159fcb704ed3df4bf0709ddd3.1689465600.git.me@tobias.gr>
     [not found]   ` <87edl1yu2k.fsf@wireframe>
     [not found]     ` <87bkg5yt91.fsf@wireframe>
     [not found]       ` <87r0odpmot.fsf_-_@gnu.org>
     [not found]         ` <87o7ipvbhh.fsf__48662.4622646318$1693341314$gmane$org@wireframe>
2023-08-29 21:21           ` brian via Bug reports for GNU Guix

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