From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Ludovic =?UTF-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?= Subject: bug#36636: Tell users to update/reconfigure regularly Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2019 16:59:16 +0200 Message-ID: <874l3o1x2z.fsf@gnu.org> References: <20190713093530.eph5xvkqyhejkodd@pelzflorian.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:57139) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hmfyu-0005mA-TS for bug-guix@gnu.org; Sun, 14 Jul 2019 11:00:05 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hmfyt-0000t2-3F for bug-guix@gnu.org; Sun, 14 Jul 2019 11:00:04 -0400 Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:36816) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hmfys-0000sQ-EB for bug-guix@gnu.org; Sun, 14 Jul 2019 11:00:02 -0400 Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hmfys-0005Yr-BS for bug-guix@gnu.org; Sun, 14 Jul 2019 11:00:02 -0400 Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20190713093530.eph5xvkqyhejkodd@pelzflorian.localdomain> (pelzflorian@pelzflorian.de's message of "Sat, 13 Jul 2019 11:35:30 +0200") List-Id: Bug reports for GNU Guix List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-guix-bounces+gcggb-bug-guix=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: "bug-Guix" To: "pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)" Cc: 36636@debbugs.gnu.org Hello, "pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)" skribis: > When installing Guix System from the iso image, users should be told > to pull and reconfigure regularly. Even though it is mentioned in the > manual, not everyone reads manuals. I believe Guix=E2=80=99 target users > include inexperienced users who do not know that they should update > and upgrade regularly. Therefore the installer should tell users how > to do so and that it is important and perhaps what to do if things > break. The =E2=80=98guix=E2=80=99 command itself tells you to do so. But of cours= e, if you never run =E2=80=98guix=E2=80=99, you never see that message. > Of course, some users still won=E2=80=99t update and they should have the > liberty to decide for themselves, but some users just forget to > update. Ubuntu defaults to automatic updates, which slow down the > machine and annoy users. Still, maybe there should be notifications > like a cron job invoking libnotify=E2=80=99s notify-send. Sounds like something we can do. Ultimately though, what can we do for users who do not read the manual and do not run =E2=80=98guix=E2=80=99 either? Would a notification really = help? Longer-term I think we should have an unattended upgrade service, and it should probably be part of =E2=80=98%desktop-services=E2=80=99. Thoughts? Ludo=E2=80=99.