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dkim=fail (rsa verify failed) header.d=elephly.net header.s=zoho header.b=ZjD/Ujpu; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of bug-guix-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=bug-guix-bounces@gnu.org X-Spam-Score: 3.49 X-TUID: akHS72gLn89J zimoun writes: > Dear Mark, > > On Mon, 14 Sep 2020 at 22:58, Mark H Weaver wrote: > >> For what it's worth: not everyone uses Emacs, and it would be good to >> support users who choose to use simpler software. I guess that it would >> be quite easy to modify the software behind 'issues.guix.gnu.org' to >> generate HTML that works well with simpler web browsers, so I'd prefer >> to keep this bug open. What do you think? > > I am not sure to understand. Something that generates HTML that works > well with simpler web browsers is , isn't it? > From what I understand, the aim (and "raison d'=C3=A9tre) of > is to generate what is considered as "modern > webapp". > > Therefore, what is the concrete request? > > - read the Debbugs with a simple web browser? Then the answer is > . > - add a button in saying "simple html there" and > redirecting to ? If yes, the source code to tweak is > there and I > agree it would be quite easy; I will give a try if no one beats me. > :-) As the primary author of mumi (the software behind issues.guix.gnu.org) I agree with Mark and think this is worth fixing. I don=E2=80=99t want peo= ple to have to use debbugs.gnu.org with its different features when we could just make issues.guix.gnu.org do the right thing on simpler browsers. issues.guix.gnu.org is supposed to offer a =E2=80=9Csuperior=E2=80=9D exper= ience to debbugs.gnu.org =E2=80=94 it is supposed to be sufficient to replace it, no= t to be merely an alternative view; while a primarily goal is indeed to make it look =E2=80=9Cpretty=E2=80=9D (i.e. some font and spacing improvements a= nd very subjective style changes that lean on what many users of Github and Gitlab may be familiar with), it also provides features that debbugs.gnu.org does not, such as listing =E2=80=9Cforgotten=E2=80=9D issue= s, to search without a somewhat complicated form, or the ability to comment from a browser. There is no good reason why this should not be usable by people who use a simpler browser (I=E2=80=99m one of these people on some days). If it tu= rns out to be tricky to implement or to cause a degraded experience for those who use popular browsers we can still close this, but I think we should at least try. --=20 Ricardo