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aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=disroot.org header.s=mail header.b=dGEoY38V; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gnu.org; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of bug-guix-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=bug-guix-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -0.93 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=disroot.org header.s=mail header.b=dGEoY38V; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gnu.org; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of bug-guix-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=bug-guix-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 2BB7E1E4B3 X-Spam-Score: -0.93 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn1.migadu.com X-TUID: 0KiMARuLSovQ bo0od writes: > if guix irc migrated to OFTC OFTC has a problematic registration process. In the registration process they encourage the use of Google captcha. Further there is no mention during the registration process of any alternative account registration options. The use of Google captcha is problematic because of freedom, privacy, ethical and philosophical reasons. There is a freedom problem because JavaScript has to be enabled and Google captcha is not free software. There is a privacy issue demonstrated by the Tor browser documentation's security settings section which says that JavaScript is disabled when the safest setting is used. Then there is an ethical issue of people doing free labor for Google. Then there is a philosophical issue if that free labor is used to train artificial intelligence (Google is working on artificial intelligence ) as this raises the issue of artificial intelligence safety.