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From: Maxim Cournoyer <maxim.cournoyer@gmail.com>
To: Alex Kost <alezost@gmail.com>
Cc: 20255@debbugs.gnu.org, iyzsong@gmail.com
Subject: bug#20255: 'search-paths' should respect both user and system profile.
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2021 22:37:02 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <874kdlxsfl.fsf_-_@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87eeun97ur.fsf@gmail.com> (Alex Kost's message of "Fri, 21 Feb 2020 20:18:52 +0300")

Hello,

Alex Kost <alezost@gmail.com> writes:

> zimoun (2020-02-21 16:53 +0100) wrote:
>
>> Dear,
>>
>> What is the status of the bug#20255 [1]?
>> It is old; the last activity seems back on 2015, November. So let resume.
>>
>> The issue is, e.g.:
>>  - perl installed into the system profile
>>  - perl-xml-parser installed into an user profile
>> Then "guix package --search-paths" does not set correctly XML::Parser.
>>
>>
>> Fixes had been pushed: dedb17a and b2a7223 and cc3de1d.
>>
>> The final fix is still missing. Because it is a controversial patch
>> [2] :-) i.e., running 'guix' in '/etc/profile'; see these lines of the
>> patch:
>>
>> +  eval `/run/current-system/profile/bin/guix package \\
>> +          -p /run/current-system/profile             \\
>> +          -p \"$HOME/.guix-profile\" --search-paths`
>>
>>
>> The friendly "protest" [3] is about turning these lines optional via
>> an environment variable. I am not sure to follow where the discussion
>> had been going then.
>
> As for me, I am OK with any default setting as long as there is a way to
> change it.  I recall Ludovic proposed a patch that allowed to customize
> "/etc/profile" and I was happy about it, but he changed his mind on that
> patch so it was never committed.

Do you still have a vetted interest in the issue at hand?  This is a
serious usability problem that's been in limbo for 6 years, apparently
for reasons of purity (not wanting to run a command in /etc/profile).
While I share the sentiment that /etc/profile would better be 'inert' or
static, it seems we haven't been able to come up with a better solution
than calling 'guix package --search-paths'.  Like Ludovic, I also don't
find the idea of allowing users to override /etc/profile very appealing;
even if undocumented, its mere presence in the operating-system field
would be an invitation for problems.  An environment variable to disable
such basic functionality also seems backward to me.

I would personally be in favor of committing the fix as-is.  If < 1 s of
wasted time on boot is an issue, I suggest to look into GNU Shepherd to
offset it; optimization opportunities should abound :-).

Thank you,

Maxim




  reply	other threads:[~2021-06-26  2:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-04-04 10:29 bug#20255: 'search-paths' should respect both user and system profile 宋文武
2015-04-04 21:04 ` Ludovic Courtès
2015-04-05  3:39   ` 宋文武
2015-04-05 18:15     ` Ludovic Courtès
2015-04-06  4:02       ` 宋文武
2015-04-06  8:24         ` Mark H Weaver
2015-05-02 22:12         ` Ludovic Courtès
2015-11-19 22:32           ` Ludovic Courtès
2015-11-20 22:42             ` Alex Kost
2015-11-21  8:57               ` Ludovic Courtès
2015-11-21 18:41                 ` Alex Kost
2015-11-21 20:10                   ` Ludovic Courtès
2015-11-22  7:52                     ` Alex Kost
2015-11-22 10:52                       ` Ludovic Courtès
2015-11-22 18:44                         ` Alex Kost
2015-11-22 23:04                           ` Ludovic Courtès
2015-11-23 11:55                             ` Alex Kost
2015-11-23 14:31                               ` Ludovic Courtès
2015-11-24 17:22                       ` Ludovic Courtès
2015-11-30  9:08                         ` Alex Kost
2015-11-30 12:25                           ` Ludovic Courtès
2015-05-04 21:44     ` Ludovic Courtès
2015-05-05  8:28       ` 宋文武
2015-05-05 12:35         ` Ludovic Courtès
2015-05-06 16:35         ` Ludovic Courtès
2015-11-12 11:13       ` Ludovic Courtès
2020-02-21 15:53 ` bug#20255: (old)bug#20255: 'search-paths' should respect both user and system profiles zimoun
2020-02-21 17:18   ` Alex Kost
2021-06-26  2:37     ` Maxim Cournoyer [this message]
2021-06-26  5:59       ` bug#20255: 'search-paths' should respect both user and system profile Leo Prikler
2021-06-28  4:35         ` Maxim Cournoyer
2021-06-28  6:58           ` Leo Prikler
2021-06-27  9:59       ` Alex Kost
2021-06-28  4:48         ` Maxim Cournoyer
2021-06-29 17:29           ` Alex Kost
2020-12-18 20:27   ` bug#20255: «the Oldest» [PATCH] 'search-paths' should respect both user and system profiles zimoun
2023-05-12 12:34     ` bug#20255: 'search-paths' should respect both user and system profile 宋文武 via Bug reports for GNU Guix
2023-05-15 13:53       ` Maxim Cournoyer
2023-05-15 17:14       ` Josselin Poiret via Bug reports for GNU Guix
2023-05-15 17:46         ` Maxim Cournoyer
2023-05-16  9:37           ` Josselin Poiret via Bug reports for GNU Guix
2023-05-16 11:00             ` 宋文武 via Bug reports for GNU Guix
2023-05-17 14:04 ` bug#20255: [PATCH 1/4] home: shells: Merge search-paths of multiple profiles iyzsong--- via Bug reports for GNU Guix
2023-05-17 14:04   ` bug#20255: [PATCH 2/4] system: default-skeletons: Set up Guix home profile when it exists iyzsong--- via Bug reports for GNU Guix
2023-05-17 14:04   ` bug#20255: [PATCH 3/4] system: Only source system profile's settings in '/etc/profile' iyzsong--- via Bug reports for GNU Guix
2023-05-17 14:04   ` bug#20255: [PATCH 4/4] news: Add entry for '/etc/profile' changes iyzsong--- via Bug reports for GNU Guix

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