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From: "Ludovic Courtès" <ludo@gnu.org>
To: 56674@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#56674: [Shepherd] Use of ‘waitpid’,  ‘system*’,  etc. in service code can cause deadlocks
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2022 23:39:08 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8735evpipv.fsf@inria.fr> (raw)

Hi!

We’ve just had a bad experience with the nginx service on berlin, where
‘herd restart nginx’ would cause shepherd to get stuck forever in
‘waitpid’ on the process that was supposed to start nginx.

The details are unclear, but one thing is clear is that using ‘waitpid’
(either directly or indirectly with ‘system*’, which is what
‘nginx-service-type’ does) is not great:

  1. In the best case, shepherd (as of 0.9.1) is stuck while ‘system*’
     is in ‘waitpid’ waiting for child process completion (“stuck” as
     in: doesn’t do anything, not even answering ‘herd’ requests or
     inetd connections.)

  2. I don’t think that can happen with ‘system*’ (because it’s in C),
     but generally speaking, there’s a possibility that shepherd’s event
     loop will handle child process termination before some other
     user-made ‘waitpid’ call does.

Anyway, that’s a bad situation.

So I can think of several ways to address it:

  1. Change the nginx service ‘stop’ method to just
     (make-kill-destructor), which should work just as well as invoking
     “nginx -s stop”.

  2. Have Shepherd provide a replacement for ‘system*’.

Thoughts?

Ludo’.




             reply	other threads:[~2022-07-20 21:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-07-20 21:39 Ludovic Courtès [this message]
2022-07-20 23:48 ` bug#56674: [Shepherd] Use of ‘waitpid’, ‘system*’, etc. in service code can cause deadlocks Maxime Devos
2022-07-21 15:39   ` Ludovic Courtès
2022-08-13 14:59     ` Maxime Devos
2022-11-13 23:16 ` Ludovic Courtès
2022-11-14 16:32   ` bug#58926: Shepherd becomes unresponsive after an interrupt Ludovic Courtès

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