From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Alex Kost Subject: bug#20255: 'search-paths' should respect both user and system profile. Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2015 14:55:18 +0300 Message-ID: <871tbh53rt.fsf@gmail.com> References: <877ftschjt.fsf@gmail.com> <87fv8fip01.fsf@gnu.org> <87d23j1bxk.fsf@gmail.com> <871tjyfnl8.fsf@gnu.org> <876199q4z1.fsf@gmail.com> <87ioca4ojo.fsf@gnu.org> <87lh9tvcws.fsf@gnu.org> <87h9kguwc4.fsf@gmail.com> <87ziy7d90z.fsf@gnu.org> <874mgfkxee.fsf@gmail.com> <87wptb5d1y.fsf@gnu.org> <87r3jisc76.fsf@gmail.com> <87lh9q1f2i.fsf@gnu.org> <877fl9q3gv.fsf@gmail.com> <87h9kdy6ty.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:42971) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a0pj4-00034s-8K for bug-guix@gnu.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2015 06:56:07 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a0pj1-0005MY-25 for bug-guix@gnu.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2015 06:56:06 -0500 Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:59302) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a0pj0-0005MT-Ur for bug-guix@gnu.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2015 06:56:02 -0500 Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1a0pj0-0000cK-Kz for bug-guix@gnu.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2015 06:56:02 -0500 Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <87h9kdy6ty.fsf@gnu.org> ("Ludovic \=\?utf-8\?Q\?Court\=C3\=A8s\=22'\?\= \=\?utf-8\?Q\?s\?\= message of "Mon, 23 Nov 2015 00:04:09 +0100") List-Id: Bug reports for GNU Guix List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-guix-bounces+gcggb-bug-guix=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: bug-guix-bounces+gcggb-bug-guix=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Ludovic =?UTF-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?= Cc: 20255@debbugs.gnu.org Ludovic Court=C3=A8s (2015-11-23 02:04 +0300) wrote: > Alex Kost skribis: > >> Ludovic Court=C3=A8s (2015-11-22 13:52 +0300) wrote: > > [...] > >> but it suits only the default case of a single user profile. If I >> have several user profiles, it does nothing useful for me, only wastes >> the time. > > I think this is fine. ~/.guix-profile is treated specially in many > ways. I think users do not expect other profiles to be magically taken > into account. Yes, this is a good default option, all I wanted to say is if I don't use Guix in a default way, I would like to change this default option to suit my needs. >>> What would you suggest? >> >> After all, I realized what is my main concern: "/etc/profile" is >> non-editable. If I don't like some pieces of this file, I can do >> nothing, and I just have to live with it and suffer. Ideally I would >> like to decide what pieces I want to put in /etc/profile and what I >> don't. But it's probably not possible, so=E2=80=A6 >> >> =E2=80=A6 what I suggest now is just to give an option to avoid generati= ng the >> default /etc/profile. What about making an 'operating-system' field for >> this file (similar to 'sudoers-file' or 'hosts-file')? So when such >> 'profile-file' is specified, it will be used instead of the default one >> (of course, it should be mentioned in the manual that it's only for >> those users who are sure what they do). > > I think we could make an /etc/profile-service that receives snippets > meant to be glued together into the final /etc/profile. Users could > specify the top or bottom of the file. > > There could be a combined-search-paths-service that implements the > solution I proposed here. > > WDYT? I agree, the more ways to change a default behaviour, the better. Although I will not use these things if there will be =E2=80=98profile-file= =E2=80=99 field that allows to specify my own "/etc/profile". >> If this 'profile-file' field appears, I will gladly use it, and I will >> not object to any future changes in /etc/profile. > > Of course we want to offer this flexibility. Great! So is it OK to send a patch for adding =E2=80=98profile-file=E2=80= =99 field? > But I think it=E2=80=99s also > important to discuss the defaults, to make sure they are acceptable to > many and that they improve the =E2=80=9Cuser experience.=E2=80=9D I'm probably not the person to discuss the defaults, as very often I find defaults inappropriate. For example, invoking "guix package --search-paths" in /etc/profile is a totally unacceptable default for me (sorry for mentioning it all the time :-)) --=20 Alex