* bug#35942: guix install: environment variable message is very confusing @ 2019-05-28 11:17 Robert Vollmert 2019-05-28 12:08 ` Tobias Geerinckx-Rice 0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread From: Robert Vollmert @ 2019-05-28 11:17 UTC (permalink / raw) To: 35942 When installing a package that needs an environment variaible to be set for use, `guix install` prints e.g.: $ guix install python ... The following environment variable definitions may be needed: export PYTHONPATH="/home/rob/.guix-profile/lib/python3.7/site-packages${PYTHONPATH:+:}$PYTHONPATH" I understand that the variable will be set in a new shell, but not in the current shell. But as it stands, the message serves to confuse even users that are somewhat experienced with unix-like systems. Suggestion to instead print: Set the following environment variables to use <package> right away: export PYTHONPATH="/home/rob/.guix-profile/lib/python3.7/site-packages${PYTHONPATH:+:}$PYTHONPATH" ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
* bug#35942: guix install: environment variable message is very confusing 2019-05-28 11:17 bug#35942: guix install: environment variable message is very confusing Robert Vollmert @ 2019-05-28 12:08 ` Tobias Geerinckx-Rice 2019-05-28 15:23 ` Ludovic Courtès 0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread From: Tobias Geerinckx-Rice @ 2019-05-28 12:08 UTC (permalink / raw) To: 35942 [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 293 bytes --] Robert, Robert Vollmert wrote: > Suggestion to instead print: > > Set the following environment variables to use <package> right > away: Thanks for the bug report! Related (not duplicate) thread: <https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/guix-devel/2019-02/msg00362.html> Kind regards, T G-R [-- Attachment #2: signature.asc --] [-- Type: application/pgp-signature, Size: 227 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
* bug#35942: guix install: environment variable message is very confusing 2019-05-28 12:08 ` Tobias Geerinckx-Rice @ 2019-05-28 15:23 ` Ludovic Courtès 2019-05-30 7:07 ` Ricardo Wurmus 0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread From: Ludovic Courtès @ 2019-05-28 15:23 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Tobias Geerinckx-Rice; +Cc: 35942 Hi, Tobias Geerinckx-Rice <me@tobias.gr> skribis: > Robert Vollmert wrote: >> Suggestion to instead print: >> >> Set the following environment variables to use <package> right away: > > Thanks for the bug report! Related (not duplicate) thread: > > <https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/guix-devel/2019-02/msg00362.html> I don’t think we reached a conclusion back then. I’m fine with Robert’s suggestion, but do people think it will really help? Others were in favor of dropping this message altogether, which I think wouldn’t be a good idea: how would people discover about search path handling? Thoughts? Ludo’. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
* bug#35942: guix install: environment variable message is very confusing 2019-05-28 15:23 ` Ludovic Courtès @ 2019-05-30 7:07 ` Ricardo Wurmus 2019-05-31 16:45 ` Andreas Enge 2019-05-31 21:19 ` Ludovic Courtès 0 siblings, 2 replies; 7+ messages in thread From: Ricardo Wurmus @ 2019-05-30 7:07 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Ludovic Courtès; +Cc: 35942 Ludovic Courtès <ludo@gnu.org> writes: > Hi, > > Tobias Geerinckx-Rice <me@tobias.gr> skribis: > >> Robert Vollmert wrote: >>> Suggestion to instead print: >>> >>> Set the following environment variables to use <package> right away: >> >> Thanks for the bug report! Related (not duplicate) thread: >> >> <https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/guix-devel/2019-02/msg00362.html> > > I don’t think we reached a conclusion back then. I’m fine with Robert’s > suggestion, but do people think it will really help? > > Others were in favor of dropping this message altogether, which I think > wouldn’t be a good idea: how would people discover about search path > handling? I was in favour of *replacing* the message with the suggestion to run export GUIX_PROFILE=/this/profile source $GUIX_PROFILE/etc/profile because it usually does the right thing. It looks less overwhelming than the individual list of environment variables. I’ve seen a lot of people who added all of these variables to their bashrc (or bash_profile if they talked to me before), which is not what we want to encourage. We can also hint at “guix package --search-paths” to see a full list of environment variables for people who want to set them manually right here and now. -- Ricardo ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
* bug#35942: guix install: environment variable message is very confusing 2019-05-30 7:07 ` Ricardo Wurmus @ 2019-05-31 16:45 ` Andreas Enge 2019-05-31 21:19 ` Ludovic Courtès 1 sibling, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread From: Andreas Enge @ 2019-05-31 16:45 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Ricardo Wurmus; +Cc: 35942 Hello, On Thu, May 30, 2019 at 09:07:30AM +0200, Ricardo Wurmus wrote: > I was in favour of *replacing* the message with the suggestion to run > export GUIX_PROFILE=/this/profile > source $GUIX_PROFILE/etc/profile > because it usually does the right thing. I think this was the conclusion reached, and am just waiting for Guix to give me the message to update one of my bash* files :-) Andreas ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
* bug#35942: guix install: environment variable message is very confusing 2019-05-30 7:07 ` Ricardo Wurmus 2019-05-31 16:45 ` Andreas Enge @ 2019-05-31 21:19 ` Ludovic Courtès 2019-06-06 7:48 ` Ludovic Courtès 1 sibling, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread From: Ludovic Courtès @ 2019-05-31 21:19 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Ricardo Wurmus; +Cc: 35942 [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1401 bytes --] Hi! Ricardo Wurmus <rekado@elephly.net> skribis: > Ludovic Courtès <ludo@gnu.org> writes: [...] >>> <https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/guix-devel/2019-02/msg00362.html> >> >> I don’t think we reached a conclusion back then. I’m fine with Robert’s >> suggestion, but do people think it will really help? >> >> Others were in favor of dropping this message altogether, which I think >> wouldn’t be a good idea: how would people discover about search path >> handling? > > I was in favour of *replacing* the message with the suggestion to run > > export GUIX_PROFILE=/this/profile > source $GUIX_PROFILE/etc/profile > > because it usually does the right thing. > > It looks less overwhelming than the individual list of environment > variables. I’ve seen a lot of people who added all of these variables > to their bashrc (or bash_profile if they talked to me before), which is > not what we want to encourage. > > We can also hint at “guix package --search-paths” to see a full list of > environment variables for people who want to set them manually right > here and now. Sounds good to me. How about the following patch? It does produce a slightly verbose message, but I don’t think we can do much better (we could save one line by not mentioning ‘--search-paths’.) Thanks for getting the ball rolling. :-) Ludo’. [-- Warning: decoded text below may be mangled, UTF-8 assumed --] [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/x-patch, Size: 2297 bytes --] diff --git a/guix/scripts/package.scm b/guix/scripts/package.scm index 06e4cf5b9c..5751123525 100644 --- a/guix/scripts/package.scm +++ b/guix/scripts/package.scm @@ -57,7 +57,6 @@ #:export (build-and-use-profile delete-generations delete-matching-generations - display-search-paths guix-package (%options . %package-options) @@ -169,8 +168,7 @@ hooks\" run when building the profile." "~a packages in profile~%" count) count) - (display-search-paths entries (list profile) - #:kind 'prefix))) + (display-search-path-hint entries profile))) (warn-about-disk-space profile)))))) @@ -289,17 +287,23 @@ symlinks like 'canonicalize-path' would do." file (string-append (getcwd) "/" file))) -(define* (display-search-paths entries profiles - #:key (kind 'exact)) - "Display the search path environment variables that may need to be set for -ENTRIES, a list of manifest entries, in the context of PROFILE." - (let* ((profiles (map (compose user-friendly-profile absolutize) - profiles)) - (settings (search-path-environment-variables entries profiles - #:kind kind))) +(define (display-search-path-hint entries profile) + "Display a hint on how to set environment variables to use ENTRIES, a list +of manifest entries, in the context of PROFILE." + (let* ((profile (user-friendly-profile (absolutize profile))) + (settings (search-path-environment-variables entries (list profile) + #:kind 'prefix))) (unless (null? settings) - (format #t (G_ "The following environment variable definitions may be needed:~%")) - (format #t "~{ ~a~%~}" settings)))) + (display-hint (format #f (G_ "Consider setting the necessary environment +variables by running: + +@example +GUIX_PROFILE=\"~a\" +. \"$GUIX_PROFILE/etc/profile\" +@end example + +Alternately, see @command{guix package --search-paths -p ~s}.") + profile profile))))) \f ;;; ^ permalink raw reply related [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
* bug#35942: guix install: environment variable message is very confusing 2019-05-31 21:19 ` Ludovic Courtès @ 2019-06-06 7:48 ` Ludovic Courtès 0 siblings, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread From: Ludovic Courtès @ 2019-06-06 7:48 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Ricardo Wurmus; +Cc: 35942-done Hello, Ludovic Courtès <ludo@gnu.org> skribis: > How about the following patch? > > It does produce a slightly verbose message, but I don’t think we can do > much better (we could save one line by not mentioning ‘--search-paths’.) Pushed as bcb7c900cc9d01603fb8fa47bc52caa8e7ebd480. Feedback welcome! Thanks, Ludo’. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
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