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From: zimoun <zimon.toutoune@gmail.com>
To: Brendan Tildesley <mail@brendan.scot>
Cc: 41878@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#41878: 'guix substitute' and 'guix pull' fail gracelessly on flaky networks
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2020 16:17:05 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <871rj8gzz2.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2486f02b-b36f-7747-4eb0-b43d9215dd9f@brendan.scot> (Brendan Tildesley's message of "Sun, 30 Aug 2020 20:06:58 +1000")

Dear,

On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 at 20:06, Brendan Tildesley <mail@brendan.scot> wrote:
> I have not looked closely but from observation I think currently guix first
> decides if it is going to commit to using a substitute, or falling back to
> building locally, by checking if substitutes are available then committing to
> a method. This differs from the concept of a fallback in my head, which would
> involve trying option B only after option A has been tried and failed. guix's
> way means there are a class of failures where guix simply gives up and stops
> instead of falling back.

What do you mean?

> In my experience, probably 10% of the time I try a guix pull; guix package -u
> ., there is some weird network error that doesn't happen the second time I run
> it. Perhaps it would be sufficient to simply try twice for every substitute;
> accumulate a list of failed substitutes and retry them after iterating through
> the list of substitutes to download, then if that fails try building from
> source. only then are we allowed to give up.

It rings a bell to me.  Something about the configuration of Cuirass and
the build farm serving the substitutes; related to caching.  But I am
not able to find the relevant pointer.


All the best,
simon




      reply	other threads:[~2020-09-11 14:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-06-15 16:30 bug#41878: Handshake Error Quinten Gruenthal
2020-06-15 19:42 ` Ludovic Courtès
2020-06-15 21:55   ` Quinten Gruenthal
2020-06-16  8:07     ` Ludovic Courtès
2020-06-16  9:31       ` Bengt Richter
2020-06-16 14:57       ` Quinten Gruenthal
2020-06-17 12:03         ` Ludovic Courtès
2020-08-30 10:06 ` bug#41878: 'guix substitute' and 'guix pull' fail gracelessly on flaky networks Brendan Tildesley
2020-09-11 14:17   ` zimoun [this message]

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