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From: Leo Prikler <leo.prikler@student.tugraz.at>
To: Andrew Tropin <andrew@trop.in>
Cc: 48331@debbugs.gnu.org, Maxim Cournoyer <maxim.cournoyer@gmail.com>
Subject: bug#48331: Emacs' describe-package doesn't work for packages managed by guix
Date: Tue, 11 May 2021 18:33:37 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8164abe40ec6e865bf8385e010702cfe158dabcc.camel@student.tugraz.at> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CABrWRW3bRnP+vMu6j73o=p2GHbOsLQ-2MejDV5bCNFuqLDD9Sw@mail.gmail.com>

Am Dienstag, den 11.05.2021, 18:57 +0300 schrieb Andrew Tropin:
> Patched emacs-build-system to place packages under elpa/NAME-VERSION
> subdirectory and removed "-pkg\\.el$" from %default-exclude.
I don't know whether that's a good idea.  The elpa/ part I already
dislike, and the "-pkg\\.el$" exclude might have existed for a reason
(I don't know which, put perhaps byte compilation).

> > I have now published emacs-dpd [2], which does exactly that.  To
> > use it
> > for your Guix Emacs packages, execute
> >   (dpd (list "$GUIX_PROFILE/share/emacs/site-lisp" ...))
> > replacing "$GUIX_PROFILE" with the actual profile, after `package-
> > initialize' has run with `dpd-fuzzy-recognize' in `dpd-recognize-
> > hook'.
> > I might write a more detailed README later.
> 
> Most of the packages already have -pkg.el in sources, but yep, pretty
> cool utility, also thought about implementing something like that
> yesterday, but luckily I didn't and now I do not need to do it,
> because
> now I'm aware of already-existing implementations!)
I know people take package.el for granted nowadays, but alternative
package managers for Emacs have their uses.  This is not just a Guix
thing :)

> > Neither packed nor dpd are currently packaged in Guix.  packed can
> > easily be imported from melpa-stable, but for dpd you'd have to
> > write
> > your own guix.scm.  I might do that at some point as well.
> > We already had modifications in emacs-build-system recently, so if
> > you
> > want to argue, that all Emacs packages should have that <package>-
> > pkg.el to work with package.el out of the box, I would ask you to
> > wait,
> > so as to not cause an "Emacs world" rebuild again after only ten
> > days.
> > I also don't know whether Guix has the same information as
> > package.el
> > at build time, but that might change with time as
> > well.  Particularly,
> > there will hopefully be a move towards supplying name and version
> > at
> > build, which would give us the most important information.
> 
> Very cool, I didn't have the latest changes on my local checkout and
> didn't
> see your commits, but now I see, it is exactly what I needed.
> 
> The only side note: it should be site-lisp/elpa/NAME-VERSION (right
> now
> it is site-lisp/NAME-VERSION).  Also, on line 137 elpa-directory
> function can be used.
I don't think we want to fake elpa that hard.  Two iterations ago it
was .guix.d and people didn't really like it.  My subdirs.el patch is
also stretching it.  So I really don't want to add another subdirectory
layer to it.
If elpa can't deal with that, we'll have to code around it in Elisp.

> When you will be updating the path, please remove -pkg.el from
> %default-exclude.
I've CC'd Maxim, perhaps they know more about %default-exclude.

Regards,
Leo





  reply	other threads:[~2021-05-11 16:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-05-10  7:51 bug#48331: Emacs' describe-package doesn't work for packages managed by guix Andrew Tropin
2021-05-11 10:05 ` Leo Prikler
2021-05-11 15:57   ` Andrew Tropin
2021-05-11 16:33     ` Leo Prikler [this message]
2021-05-11 18:55       ` Andrew Tropin
2021-05-11 19:57         ` Leo Prikler
2021-05-19 14:32           ` Andrew Tropin
2021-05-19 15:08             ` Leo Prikler
2021-05-19 17:58               ` Andrew Tropin
2021-05-19 18:42                 ` Leo Prikler
2021-05-20 10:01                   ` Andrew Tropin
2021-05-20 10:20                     ` Leo Prikler
2021-05-20 10:32                   ` Arun Isaac
2021-05-20 10:39                     ` Arun Isaac
2021-05-20 11:13                       ` Leo Prikler
2021-05-20 12:24                     ` Andrew Tropin
2021-05-20 15:57                       ` Leo Prikler
2021-05-22  3:09                         ` Maxim Cournoyer
2021-12-03 20:46                           ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2021-12-06  4:52                             ` Andrew Tropin
2021-12-30  8:12                             ` Andrew Tropin
2021-05-11 21:17 ` Ludovic Courtès
2021-05-19 14:41   ` Andrew Tropin
2021-05-22 12:54 ` bug#48331: [PATCH 1/2] build-system: emacs: Keep -pkg.el files Leo Prikler
2021-05-22 12:54   ` bug#48331: [PATCH 2/2] gnu: emacs: Load package descriptors from packages referenced by subdirs.el Leo Prikler
2021-05-25 13:40     ` bug#48331: [PATCH draft] build-system: emacs: Generate -pkg.el file in case it is missing Andrew Tropin
2021-05-25 15:07       ` Leo Prikler
2021-05-26  8:15 ` bug#48331: [PATCH] guix: build: emacs-build-system: Make package.el aware of guix packages Ivan Sokolov

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